Android 2.2 - Froyo

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  1. hookbill

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    Yeah, he did that earlier on this thread. I called him a party pooper.
     
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    these threads are fuel for the "me generation", somebody needs to be an adult here.

    lololol
     
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    hmmm....probably tells the kids that there is no Santa. :D
     
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    whaddya mean there's no santa?
     
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    What, no Santa? I guess you are going to tell me next that there is no Easter Bunny! lol

    I am really looking forward to this update, but I will not hold my breath while waiting because the lack of oxygen to the brain makes you crazy! lol
     
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    ^^^^ hmmmm, if that is true I think of few too many of the members here held their breath too long waiting for the 2.1 OTA!!!
     
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    Well, so far my one source has been shown to be non reliable, so I guess he's not a source. June is a good month. I can see it happening then.
     
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    It will be interesting to see the how the combination of manufacturers and carriers for the various existing devices impacts the release of 2.2. This is the first time, I believe, that a good sample of top tier devices from various sources are all at the same (2.1) release level.

    () Nexus1: Release schedule directly controlled by Google with, I presume, input from T-Mobile. Pure Google UI.

    () EVO 4G: Manufactured by HTC. Carried by Sprint. HTC Sense UI

    () Hero: Manufactured by HTC. Carried by Sprint. HTC Sense UI

    () Incredible: Manufactured by HTC. Carried by Verizon. HTC Sense UI

    () Droid: Manufactured by Motorola. Carried by Verizon. Google UI.


    The combinations present some interesting engineering and marketing challenges for the various vendors.

    It seems pretty likely that the N1 will be first at the party. T-Mobile has no reason to hold up the update and neither does Google. And the N1 definitely needs a kickstart after the disastrous internet-only marketing approach from Google.

    Sprint faces a major dilemma, I think. Updating the EVO 4G so soon after its introduction, especially with its many tweaks that might be impacted by 2.2 and the refined Sense UI is likely to introduce consumer confusion in trying to sell a new device.

    Furthermore, Sprint's Hero is just now getting 2.1. Will Sprint leave it in the dust again? Even if they could do so, I doubt Sprint will release an update for the Hero before they do so for their new flagship EVO 4G.

    Verizon has a similar problem. Their new flagship, the Incredible, has the Sense UI to deal with. But are they likely to update the Droid ahead of the DInc? Some web blogs have suggested so, but I'm highly skeptical. The DInc's sales are already limited by supply problems rather than weak demand. Do they really want to update the Droid (which is being almost given away by various retailers) before the Incredible? I don't think so.

    And what about the rumored new Motorola phones for Verizon? They seem to be near ready for release in late summer/early fall. But they also (I suspect) have the Motoblur extensions that must be integrated with 2.2. Will Verizon release a Droid2 (or something similar) without a Froyo level o/s? I doubt it.

    And then there's AT&T. They're just putting their toe into the Android pool. The FroYo update gives them a chance to jump in with new hot devices at the leading edge. But will they do so at the same time that they're anticipating the release of the iPhone 4gen? How would that impact their relationship with Apple?

    Finally, what about all those devices from various carriers that are stuck back at 1.5 or 1.6? Seems unlikely that any carrier would update them to a release level older than 2.2. What's the point? But will any vendor leapfrog an older device running, say, 1.6 to 2.2 ahead of their flagship products?

    All in all, the combination of Sense and Motoblur UI extensions and the potential to cannibalize sales for existing and new models presents each carrier with some difficult choices in terms of release dates.
     
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    Here's the simple answer to all of this confusion. I know people don't want to hear it but it is the simple truth. Older devices have ONE choice and one choice only, root if possible and install a custom 2.2 ROM. Newer phones that can be rooted or are rooted will have that same option. Those phones without root, Incredible and EVO 4G as examples, are pretty much screwed and at the mercy of HTC+Carrier.

    As for AT&T, LOL! They don't know their ass from the elbow. Not only will any Android that is subsidized by AT&T be crippled and locked down to no end. With the impending release of the iPhone 4G they wouldn't dare piss off Uncle Steve at such a critical moment in time. Maybe, just maybe late this year or early next year AT&T will release some good Android phones but I wouldn't hold my breath.
     
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    Buddy, I know YOU don't want to hear it, but here's the simple truth. Most users can neither afford nor have any desire to spend their lives dealing with the details of custom roms for their phones. Nor do they want to put their phones on a custom development/update path that requires constant vigilance in terms bugs, enhancements, etc.

    For those who can treat their phones as a hobby, your advice is well taken. For those who actually use their phone as means to an end rather than an end in itself, many of whom are the "adults" noted earlier in this thread, rooting and customizing is avoided not because it's technically difficult but because they need the assurance that major corporate support for their tools provides.
     
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    Whether or not users cannot afford to or have no desire to root their devices is null and moot. Whether they are adults is null and moot, seeing that I am a father of 3, oldest being 16 years old and youngest being 10, so I am adult enough. Regardless of whatever reason or for that matter excuse you wish to present. The ONLY way 2.2 is going to show up on older devices is by rooting the device and installing a custom ROM. If for whatever reason an individual chooses not to do that is a personal one and has no bearing on that fact that it is the only way it is ending up on their G1, Hero, MyTouch, etc...

    The only other option they have would be to purchase a new phone that either has 2.2 installed or one that is currently running 2.1 and is known to be getting an official 2.2 update. Plain and simple.
     
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    and if you want

    Kids have been having kids for years, so that's nothing new. Some people, be they adults or not are happy with their NO-BUG, no meltdown because of O'C'ing, and with the 2.2 realease, a stock moto-Droid will be as fast, if not faster than a rooted 2.1. So, as soon as eveeryone reverts to 2.01, goes through all it takes to get up to speed with 2.2, all the buggy apps are cleaned up, Google might be ready for "THREE".....

    BTW....ever see (young and old) people driving 'vintage' cars? Think its a choice?

    Hey-I do go online, facilitate email, talk, IM and soon as I get a better grip, Wave, etc. My Droid goes ass fast as I need it to. No lag, NEVER a FC, and I get 28 hours on a stock battery.

    I want to root WHY? With LauncherPro, soon there will be more themes, icon sets......and a smooth system that likes to play together.

    To each his/her/its/ own.

    fish
     
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