Android will fail without update reform

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  1. kingsway8605

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    Google is not doing a good job. They could demand better update cycle a requirement or at least more transperancy for carrying the google branded android. And verizon has confirmed that they are not sure that they well provide the gb update, even to the newer phones. And just because I know someone is going to say it, yes android is open source, but in order for it to carry the google brand, google has to approve it.

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    Where has Verizon confirmed it may not carry the update? And how is it confirmed if it's still open ended?

    Google branded Android.... I don't know if you've heard, but GB and above is supposed to work toward using a more 'Google' Android relying less on mfg's UI's.

    Technology creates these quick EOL cycles, not Verizon or any other carrier.
     
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    Where did you read that verizon wasn't updating newer phone to GB? Link please....

    And as for google forcing updates...well that's unreasonable. The nature of the system doesn't call for it. Motorola has done a good job, as for the others I agree they have dropped the ball. But the update issue is on the manufacturers.

    Besides, no where does it say you are entitled to software updates. Google has said after honeycomb the updates will slow down anyways so maybe the manufacturers will catch up. Who knows,

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    Verizon hasn't confirmed or denied. They said they are not sure. Google verizon gingerbread android, there are like 100 articles on it.

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    Glanced at a few and yeah, vzw can't say what will or won't yet. They have to get the builds from manufacturers and test for quality purposes. If it doesn't meet their quality stamdard they won't release it. That's all that these allude too.

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    100 articles? Yet they haven't confirmed or denied?....... if you don't like it don't buy it. That's the power of the purse. Go buy an iPhone & write a complaint to Verizon about how your perceived lack of updates doomed your Droid X or something........lawlz

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    That is exactly what I predicted will eventually happen in my o/p. I'll never understand why people get defensive when their phone is criticized lol, both android and iphone users do. Is it a low self esteem thing? I am criticizing the phone, not you.

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    I don't see this coversation as defensive but rather argumentative. Like i've said before the points you are making are not representative of android but of either the tech industry as a whole, particular manufacturers, or vzw. The grass is always greener on the other side so if you truly think this is an android specific issue, then by all means try a different platform. I'm nearly positive you'll have the same complaints. Truth be told my largest problem with your argument is the blanket statement that these issues will make android "fail" because that's just not so. Only time will tell how android fairs in the market, but this particular subject will not be their downfall.

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    I don't think anyone here is getting defensive. We all (mostly) just agree that your prediction is wrong. Can I get a closed post? Woop woop!

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    Ok, I think the OP had valid points although not completely thought or worded out.

    Here is the problem with Android as I see it. (Which makes it a fact)

    The Droid continues to get GREAT support, but that's because it's the top-selling android device of all time. Now, when there is no clear "leader in the clubhouse" (so to speak) for Android and all of the Android phones evenly split the pie, will there be an incentive for ANY of the manufacturers to continue to update the older devices instead of building a new one??? You start to see the strength in Apple's strategy when playing this scenario out.

    I hope you guys can understand what I'm saying here.....
     
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    Thats such a cop out. "Is it a low self esteem thing"? Why because people have a different opinion than yours? Haha get over yourself guy. Thats what people say when they have no logical retort. Not sure if you noticed but you're on a forum talking about cell phones, so you might get some opinions on...wait for it...people's phones. GASP!!! What ever will you do!!! haha what a clown

    UNC, you raise a good point. But the problem with the iphone is that for the most part (with the exception of the 4) each phone is pretty much the same. And its not like they push updates to it that frequently at all. Whats the difference in having an iphone that doesnt get any updates, but has no competition, and having an android phone that isnt getting updates, but has tons of better android phones as competition. The answer is that to the person that owns each of those phones respectively, its the same exact scenario. The difference is that those who are currently in the market for phones always have a new and better option, whereas with apple, you can still only choose the iphone 4.
     
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    I see what you're saying and your probably right but that's not the point. I don't care all that much about updates and I don't think too many average users do either. For example my girlfriend has the g1 which still runs 1.6 and not once has she said to me
    "You know what I hate about android/htc? The fact that I haven't gotten an update since the dawn of man"
    In fact what she has told me is that shes itching to get the g2. I don't think the average user cares all that much about updates or even really pays attention to what they are/when they're coming, they just wake up one day with an update notification, pull it, and go on with their day. None of my friends on android os would even know what gingerbread is if it weren't for me yakking on about it forever. Since the average user is the largest chunk of where the money comes from, I find it very hard to believe that a lack of updates will affect android in the slightest.

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