What was once lost, just was found!

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  1. Archerofthemoon

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    So I've had a Thunderbolt since day 1 and happened to lose it a few months back. I went to a Verizon store and they replaced it with a fee since I had insurance. Just last night I found the original phone, some how it fell behind a storage bin in my garage. Since I reported the phone as lost, do I have to return this phone to Verizon? I'd like to just throw another sim into it since I have another contracted sim card and just use it as a tether device for work. I'd hate to have any issues with my plan for them thinking I scammed the system or something to get a second phone.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Its yours since you paid the insurance. But the ESN is bad on it and cannot be activated. You can use it as an mp3 player or use it on wifi though

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    you either have a nice paperweight or a nice multimedia device. :)
     
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    So even though I'll be throwing a new SIM into the phone it will not register? There's gotta be a way around that...

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    So since I legitimately own the phone could I copy an ESN say from my old Droid X over to it? I own both phones legally, so In theory I have the right to modify my own property, no? As long as I'm in possession of both phones there shouldn't be a problem. I could be wrong.
     
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    Modify the phone however you want, but i believe the ESN is with Verizon's systems and that is something you can't modify....

    edit: then again I don't know if ESN is related to the model of the phone though...
     
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    But isn't the ESN "Electronic", which means that it's only a stored value? With that it seems that it is a digital value that can be hopped?
     
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    i just realized that...big ol' brain fart right there -_-. Lack of sleep is sure taking its toll right now....

    I think you can register your ESN online so your method should work...

    haha sorry for the confusion if any, i know i confused myself :redface:
     
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    even if you rightfully own both phones it is still a federal offense to tamper with a device ESN number.
     
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    okay let me rephrase my previous statement. It is illegal for an individual to change the ESN. A carrier can change the ESN only after they submit the information to the FCC for approval.


    not to mention Verizon also checks the that ESN against the serial number in their database. If both numbers don't match they wont allow the phone to be used on their network.
     
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    Hey I don't understand all that legal crap in that thread, all I read was it wasn't illegal for an individual to change the ESN, but then as I read further, seems like its a gray area that could go either way.
    But then wait, where does it say its illegal to swap the ESN of a phone? Actually just wondering because it seems like they never found a clear cut law that says it is.
     
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    that's the issue with just about any law. There written in such a way that they can be interpreted in many ways thus leaving a large grey area. This is what the FCC states


     
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