[UPDATE] XDA, CyanogenMod joins Google & Wiki on Blackout

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  1. Bob Dammit

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    So, if you step up and say something about protecting your 1st amendment rights, you are a pirate? Wow.
    Nobody is against the concept of the legislation. The problem lies in the vague open ended language of the legislation. If censorship is allowed, the mechanism is in place to be abused in the future. Btw, check out how many SOPA and PIPA sponsors are in potential violation of the same legislation they are trying to pass. They don't understand it, but they are going to vote on it?

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    No, what I am saying is that how is pirating software or music/movies a First Amendment issue?

    People keep crying "FREE SPEECH!" but I have yet to see where Free Speech is affected by this... If you are selling bootleg DVD's on the street and the cops make you stop, is that violating your right to Free Speech?

    Why does anything on the internet automatically make people think that it is a first Amendment issue? Using something like the internet for something illegal, makes that usage of the internet illegal, hence the people who get prosecuted for distributing or downloading kiddie porn. We don't hear about Free Speech when their websites get shut down, do we?
     
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    This does not deserve a response from me. So, therefore, I will not respond.

    Instead I will say thank you to Bob Dammit who had my back on that. And knows what this bill really represents.

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    I hope Google and others succeed in the SOPA pretest. And I hope it leaves a bad taste in the government's mouth. And it won't taste like a SOPA-pilla
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    The SOPA thing really brings home my signatures, doesn't it?
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    Translation: I don't really have an answer, but I did respond to say that I won't respond, which is in itself a response.
     
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    I agree with what your're saying somewhat but the MPAA and RIAA are exaggerating the so call 'loss' they have. Newspaper is a dead medium, the industry doesnt want to admit so they blame bloggers, social media etc for posting 'copy right' stuff. i think we have a 'fair use' clause right? Movie theaters are dinosaurs, who goes there much? I still go once in a blue moon. its pricey, you have to deal with lines, rude people. and with the crazy size TV that are out and ppl are buying them up with HD streaming. where is the reason to go to the movies? Yet the MPAA say its pirating that is 'causing' the 'loss' of revenue. etc etc. Sales of DVD,Blu rays are up. mp3 sales are up. I mean if there isnt a profit in mp3 there wouldnt be an iTune music store or a netflix. i have yet to see a recording artist starve due to pirating. they starve because they spend like it never ends. In the end MPAA and RIAA wants to control and make $ on ALL sites or they will get shut down.
     
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    I agree, it is hard to define "loss" in these cases. While they can look at my 20,000+ MP3 collection that I downloaded over the years or got from friends and say that at $1.99 a song, they "lost" almost 40 grand in sales, just from me, I don't know that it would hold up, as I could point out that I wouldn't have purchased all these songs were they not easily downloaded, that we often download things "just because we can", but we don't want it enough to actually go pay for it otherwise... But I think that we can agree that when you look at the millions of people doing it, the "loss" is pretty substantial, no?

    It's easy for us to sit back and complain about SOPA, but if we were in charge of running those companies and we had invested millions or billions into our products and we saw blatant, rampant theft all over the place, we would be pissed and want to put a stop to it. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
     
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    Yes, you go to a court (or maybe just a judge - I forget) and ask them to take down the website. It is still not required that the site be notified, and even if they are, they have just three days from the date of a claim being filed to appeal - which is not a realistic amount of time to get a lawyer and seriously review the claim.
     
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    I don't think the general motivations behind SOPA/PIPA are the problem here. The problem is with how they're choosing to implement this supposed problem solver, which does nothing but give a huge amount of power and control to the government and content creators.
     
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    ah ok, kinda pointless...
     
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    You should just move to china where they have this kind of censorship already in place if you feel so strong about it. I know that most people abuse the internet but the majority use it to keep up to date on mundane stuff and technology.... Yes I did my share of lime ware back in the days but at the same time we really need to be well informed when it comes to thus bill..... Not everything is clear as water..... :banghead:

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    Political meaning pointing fingers to either Dems or Reps...

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    Which, in turn, translates into you not getting the point. That I am still honoring the Oath that I took. To defend the Constitution. And to fight all enemies - foreign AND DOMESTIC.

    Where did I mention in there that I am a pirate? No where. If defending the Constitution and my rights makes me a pirate. Than I am a proud pirate. If not agreeing with obama and his staff and cabinet makes me a racist, than I am a proud racist. I will say this, if Colon Powell ran for President, he would have had my vote in the blink of an eye. Now fall.me a racist. I dare you.

    Therefore, I will not respond to any more of your posts. I will pretend that you no longer exist. I am starting to lose my temper, so I will back off like a man so I don't break any of the forum rules.

    Ask P3 if I am a pirate.

    http://www.galaxynexusforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1749

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    I hope Google and others succeed in the SOPA pretest. And I hope it leaves a bad taste in the government's mouth. And it won't taste like a SOPA-pilla
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    The SOPA thing really brings home my signatures, doesn't it?
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    "Patriotism is supporting your Country at all times. And your government only when it deserves it" --Mark Twain
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    Are you an Ameri-CAN? Or are you an Ameri-CAN'T?
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    Isn't it funny how when you put the word "The" and the word "IRS" together, it spells "theirs? " Coincidence? I think not.