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That logic worked out great for the Germans in the 40's, didn't it? You can let legislation pass that infringes on your rights, but I'm not giving anything up quietly. If the government wants to use the bill as they like to explain it, they need to word it that way. Look at what our government has done in the last 30 years... I don't trust any of them. Censorship is censorship, end of story.

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if these bills will pass our country will be no different then china and north Korea. Its kind of ironic, I was born and raised in former soviet union and came to America because of the freedoms this country provides to its people. Now tables are reversing, former soviet republics are becoming more Democratic while this country is adopting more socialist idealogies. Can never win in this thing called life.

 

Piracy aside, technical aspects aside - what about due process? Nobody's mentioned that.
This bill would allow a website to be taken down without even notifying the owner. And then, once it is taken down, they can appeal to get it back. (Also, for anybody who wants to claim this is not true - try me. I've read the bill and it clearly states this)

In America, we are innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.

 

I thought an amendment in December changed that to where it has to at least be court ordered?

 

"they who give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserves neither liberty or safety." Benjamin Franklin

here you go. [h=2]US courts already enforcing SOPA-style shut-downs[/h]US courts already enforcing SOPA-style shut-downs — RT
“That kind of result wouldn't happen with real due process,”

adds the associate professor of law from Santa Clara University and administrator of the legal blog.
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btw if PIPA an SOPA would have pass i would not be able to link it since they didnt approve of it.

 

Im not quite sure how to not make it political when talking...politics...

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What right do you have to pirate music, apps, games and movies?

 

So let me get this straight... You and the mods keep stepping in and saying that if the conversation about censorship goes in a direction that you do not approve of, that you will censor us here in the forum?

Kinda ironic, no?

 

While I like the internets the way it is, I do realize that we brought this on ourselves, from decades of downloading billions of dollars of music, games, apps, operating systems, movies, etc... We all did it, we all knew it was technically illegal and we had to expect that sooner or later, the people we have been stealing from would get fed up and fight back. And now we cry Free Speech and demand to be able to keep breaking the law?

I still download stuff, but at least I am honest enough to say that I know that I don't have a good leg to stand on legally or intellectually. My stance is purely selfish and I admit that.

 

Ever heard of a statetement "I'm sorry but your appeal isnt valid"? Do you think these 50-80 year old shmucks(politicians) care about your internet? They are trying to prevent Egypt internet outbreak. Once the government gets their foot into controlling internet theres no way of stopping them from controlling more and more of internet activity. Just think about it.