Moto sets Droid X to brick itself if compromised

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  1. Darkseider

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    BnB I usually agree with you but complaining, ranting and moaning as well as not buying does do something. It shows that one of the largest Droid forums on the internet is freakin pissed at Moto's decision. It shows that even though those of us that root our phones and load custom ROMs are a vocal minority and we will tell EVERYONE we can to stay away from that brick called the Droid X. It has to start somewhere and it will always start small and it might as well be here. I am sure that Moto and VZW does monitor some of the web traffic regrading the Droid X to see what people are saying.

    EDIT: Gizmodo just published an article basically saying stay away from the Droid X.

    http://gizmodo.com/5587801/motorola-is-willing-to-break-the-phone-they-just-sold-you

    The more of these that are out there the better! I applaud Gizmodo for this.
     
  2. killabyte

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    once more i agree. first off comparing to cars is just stupid so let's stop that. the bigger picture is that someone somewhere has to deal with this stuff whether it be tech support, warranty, etc. they have the right to lock the device down. they're not twisting anyone's arm to buy it.

    like it or not, you pay a monthly fee to whatever carrier and since your device interacts with their network that unfortunately gives them some say so in what you can and can't do with it. sucks? yea it does. nothing you can do about it though. either buy it and be happy or don't, like back n black said.
     
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    So your argument is that people shouldn't bring objectionable policies to light or discuss them because there's "nothing you can do about it"?

    Roll over much?
     
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    This is exactly what I have been saying. Even though we are a minority in the droid/android community, the things we say to your friends hold a lot of water. I have already convinced a friend not to get the Droid X because of the restrictions. He has seen all that I can do with my droid and wants to option to at least be there for him. I told him he may not be able to do it with the Droid X and decided to wait on some other phones to come out to make the decision. So even though we are a minority, our friends know that we know what we are talking about and will take our advice. That's where Moto is underestimating the community. So even though we are only maybe 50,000 strong, we all have friends.

    This was probably the nail in the coffin for me. I was on the fence about renewing my contract with the X, but now I'm waiting til the end of the year and will probably go away from Moto if they keep this up...HTC and Samsung are doing some good things.
     
  5. Darkseider

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    Carrier my ass. I pay a monthly fee for internet service. Does that mean they can dictate what OS I can run on my PC? The carrier is just that a means to an end. They provide a pipe that transfers data from point A to point B. They have no right to dictate what device I use on their network so long as I pay for service in a timely manner. PERIOD.
     
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    Roll over, no - common enough sense to realize the inevitable? Yes
     
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    You are somewhat contradicting the point you were trying to support in that last paragraph. Like you said, the device interacts with the network, so they have a right to say what you can and can't do...as far as network interaction goes. It's completely ridiculous to BRICK a phone. Kick it off of a network?...sure that makes sense, but brick the phone and render it useless because someone was messing with it? That is way way too far. It doesn't hurt anyone if I mess with my phone as long as it isn't on the network since my warranty is voided. Why break it?
     
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    oh ok then man, go ahead and tether that droid to your laptop and get online but oh wait... what's that? you didn't pay them for that so you're technically stealing it... hmm could this be some of the backlash of rooting and custom roms they are trying to cover their asses on?

    look guys I'M ON YOUR SIDE damn it but use logic and common sense here. nobody liked it when microsoft blew the efuse in the 360 so you couldn't use an exploit to install a custom dashboard. 5 months and 2 million tears and internet posts later guess what? nothing has changed.

    was it unfair? yes. did they have the right to do it? well yea, actually they did. what they did didn't alter the functionality of the 360 in any way shape or form that it was advertised to function.

    same with the X. get over it already. hell no one has even bricked one yet from trying and everyone's ovaries are already tied in a knot.
     
  10. Darkseider

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    alright last one for me cause this is pointless. is it not the main purpose of that phone to interact with their network? if it bricks the phone tampering with it well, sucks yea but i'd consider it a defense mechanism. it lets them know it was being tampered with, keeps it off the network, etc - hell i don't know, you're asking me to defend their actions on that one and it hasn't even happened yet. until the possibility becomes actuality it's just a distraction so i'd rather not.
     
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    How am I stealing tethering? Please explain this to me. Tethering is a software function that allows the device to act as an internet gateway. Now data is data. I have a 5GB cap on my "unlimited" plan. If I stream CBS.COM on my Droid or stream it to my laptop while tethered the data remains static but the endpoint is different. So long as I do not go above and beyond 5GB and remain within the bounds of fair use where is stealing? Wireless carriers in the US are gouging the hell out of their customers and need to see a courtroom soon. This whole tethering thing is a scam, plain and simple.