Moto sets Droid X to brick itself if compromised

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  1. ewells2420

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    Technically the phone is 100% yours after you sign the contract for service. You pay the $$ for the phone (like $199 or whatever) and agree to stay with verizon for 2 years or pay a termination fee.

    So you really arnt ever "paying for the phone". If you have it, you paid for it.
     
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    Also, likely in this case that the carriers want them locked down to cut down on "support issues" that will come with this. Which naturally they will not support.
     
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    Damn!! Talk about Moto shooting them selfs in the foot... Yes granted the phone is an awesome one rooted or not but the Droid and the huge root community it has it what brought Moto back from the brink and now they lock this thing down like this!?!?!

    Glad my alarm clock didn't work so I could read this before I could go pick one up at the VZW store. Was planning on being there early too to get one. Will be sticking with my Droid1 until the "next best thing" comes out

    That Samsung Fascinate is looking better and better by the minute!!!
     
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    If this continues then Android as a platform will never reach true dominance of the smartphone world. The fact that Motorola is doing this is completely ignorant in that they fail to realize what has made the droid so successful, the rooting community.
     
  5. killabyte

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    Well I think dude covered the program/app aspect... as for the car analogy that's just silly man. Far too extreme in comparison BUT if you want to we can use that. Go buy a new Vette, or a Mustang or any other car, new, and start putting turbos, camshafts, heads, etc on it. Then ask them if it voids your warranty. I'll bet the answer is yes. Is it your car? Yup. Should you be able to do what you want? Yup. Can you? Yup. There's just consequences to be paid.

    I see your point and I agree man - it's our phone and we should be able to load a custom rom on it. I'd be willing to bet the carriers are behind this, not M. Some suit or network engineer somewhere either has seen or thinks there's a chance that leaving that stuff wide open could compromise their network or integrity, somehow or some way. Whether it's possible or not i'm not interested in debating.

    They're just covering their asses and trying to minimize any possible trouble in the future. We don't have to like it but we will have to live with it.

    edit - huskur made a damn fine point about support staff having to deal with it. as a computer tech/repairman/it/whatever i really hate it when people have loaded window blinds or stardock or whatever that crap is called and the computer runs at a snails pace and all the options are backwards or worded differently. granted i haven't seen a theme yet that completely changed everything around but again, they are just covering their bases.
     
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    I agree it's a step in the wrong direction but can you really pin all of the success of the droid on the ability to root it and load custom roms? C'mon man look at 90% of the posts here... most people can barely root their phone or load a custom rom.
     
  7. JCo352

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    I don't understand how people can say the root community has brought Motorola back. There were millions of Droids sold, I would say a max of 100,000 were rooted. Wouldn't you say the multi-million dollar ad-campaign brought Motorola back, seems more likely, doesn't it?
     
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    You see that's the whole point here. I don't give a rats ass that my warranty is voided. It is MY choice to root and load a custom ROM/kernel. What Moto, VZW, whomever makes these dumbass decisions fail to realize is that we know the risks, if any, and are willing to take them with OUR property. Same goes for the guy that drops a 250 nitrous shot into his Mustang or a supercharger on his Vette. No one should have the right or ability to make decisions for ME with MY property.
     
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    I agree with you on this, but not all people are like you and I. There are to many people that will root their device, and if they mess it up, who will be the first person they call?
     
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    Seems pretty simple to me....

    Don't like it, Don't buy it.

    Complaining, ranting and moaning about it does nothing.
     
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    Actually, your car analogy is silly. A more apt one would be a situation where if you TRIED to put a turbo on your Vette, an element of GM's design would recognize that you'd added a turbo and deliberately seize the engine and set the tires on fire.

    It's fine to void the warranty if you screw around with something in non-approved ways. Heck, it would even be legit if they set it up so if you screwed around you'd be kicked off the network. Deliberately breaking or making the device non-usable BECAUSE you're trying to customize is BS.
     
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  12. killabyte

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    as long as you don't have ovaries or bleed once a month and as long as your inner voice doesn't get high pitched while typing out your response it's not moaning it's discussing :p