Moto sets Droid X to brick itself if compromised

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  1. Larry_ThaGr81
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    Root users preparing to upgrade to the Droid X may want to consider holding on to there original Droid phones a little while longer. It appears that Motorola is going to extreme measures to ensure that their phones are no longer compromised. See the link below for more details on this disturbing news.

    Chance Of Unlocking Verizon’s Motorola Droid X Gets Even Lower: Say Hello to eFuse | Android News, Reviews, Applications, Games, Phones, Devices, Tips, Hacks, Videos, Podcasts - Android Police
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    Well, I guess I'll have to think twice about upgrading to another Motorola product in the future.

    I have always enjoyed my experiences with Motorola products; however, this is taking it beyond what Apple does with their products. And everyone would probably agree that they are one of the most restrictive with their products and software.
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    Lol, Just when I thought Motorola was embracing change...Ok so I wasn't buying their lame excuse of why they lock their bootloader. Fine...I didn't like it but whatever, but this?! This is just low moto. Moto you did a "no no". :\
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    So much for the upgrade

    They can say whatever they want about their business reasons. I would definitely have upgraded, but there's no way I'm buying a phone I won't be able to overclock. None. This is NOT Motorolla's doing, btw. This is Verizon. They twisted Skype's arm, and now their hardware vendor. Other hardware vendors will follow. I may got to Sprint over this.
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    Yeah, they pretty much guaranteed you'd be looking to upgrade within a year when they put a measley 256mg ram in the Droid.

    That said, I'm not sure at 1ghz that the processor would be the constraint - that's 3G and the apps.

    I like the new updates early, but I think the primary reason to root is overclocking and then underclocking for battery performance, both of which would presumably be non-issues with the newer phones.

    I like my rooted phone, but I don't think this is the end of the world. I like tinkering, but at the end of the day I don't think I'm getting that much value out of flashing roms. It's not like the extra few features you get a few months early have been earth shattering, either.
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    I'm tired of hearing this.

    eFuse makes software changes to the chipset, this is true. Will it keep the phone from booting up? Possibly, depending on those changes.

    So yes, in that sense it will "Brick" a phone.

    However it is a software eversible issue. Not hardware. NOT PERMANENT.

    That information is widely available on sites including the wiki explaining eFuse, which is used in other applications as well.

    The urgent sense and misinformation here abounds.

    Simply put, until someone has played with it to see what changes eFuse makes:

    NO ONE KNOWS.
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    It's true it's not permanent but only Motorola has the software to reverse it at this point,and still sucks though maybe someone will leak it.


    Sent from my Tapatalk using Droid
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    Jon,

    I'm certain that that will happen.

    We'll find out.
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    Ok... How do you guys think that we got access to the motorola rsd application and the sbf files for the moto droid one to flash sprecovery??? I' pretty sure Motorola have one of of he engineers leaking information to the outside world.

    Is simple as this. If that info and softwares never gets leaked, As soon as my droid one breaks, I switch to a freaking iphone.



    Iphone are more speed reliable and run more smooh from factory than a droid. The droid x is kind of laggy when you navigate through different screens.

    I wont support Motorola if I can't root. Period!
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    How is this Verizon's fault, if there are other Motorola phones, on other carriers, with locked bootloaders?
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    So you'll support AT&T and have a network with no coverage?
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    it's disturbing that they would implement a pass/fail switch to disable the phone.


    hopefully whatever device is released next july for the masses of original Droid owners who will be able to upgrade does not have this 'feature'.


    until then it will be fun to watch the kids play with their X's and whatever other devices come down the pike :)
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    You do realize Motorola isn't the only manufacturer that makes Android handsets, right?
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    Well, if you have insurance on it, you are still covered....dancedroid
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    And enjoy that limitation on data - and the lightning fast EDGE network.
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    Not a big deal to me. Im pretty sure some cracking genious will figure it out if there is enough support to do so. Or if not, whatever as I cant say I will terribly miss any apps for rooted only.

    And in any case I still have my droid. I purchased my X today, should be here tomorrow.
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    Well, technically, the limitation on data isnt a problem. Since its so slow, im not sure if you could go over 2GB.... it would take you longer than one billing cycle :p
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    Wow overreact much? You're getting what you pay for when you buy one... there's no rule that says it has to be unlockable. You're not entitled to custom roms or overclocking either. Does it break the functionality of the phone? No, not by a long shot. I'll agree that they're only hurting themselves in the long run by doing this but the comparison to Apple is a bit much.

    It's nice being able to load custom roms and "tinker" with your phone but correct me if i'm wrong - has that EVER been an advertised feature on any Android based phone? I haven't seen a single ad for the X that said unlockable or has the ability to load custom roms. Don't get me wrong - I think they SHOULD use it as a selling point. There's definitely a community for this (obviously) and these phones have the ability to knock the iTurd right out off the map.

    Android being based on open source doesn't mean you are "entitled" to all this stuff. People really need to check that sense of entitlement and get a grip.
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    See thats where alot of people disagree....How would you like to own a PC that you buy with a MS OS on it but then can only install programs that are made by Microsoft. You buy the PC the hardware and you can do what you want with it. The same is with phones you are buying the hardware it is YOURS you don't return it when you buy another phone it is your property. Yes I have a work phone and yes it is a Blackberry and yes they have it locked down to what you can and can't do but guess what I don't care they paid for the phone, they pay for the service they pay for all costs so they can decide what I can and can't do with it.

    If Verizon, Motorola wants control on the phone then we shouldn't have to pay for it and rent the phone and then it becomes thier property and they can have it back when you rent another one or cancel. But until then if your paying for the phone it becomes yours and you should be able to do what you want with the hardware. I for one don't want to have PC's locked down like phones where you can only do what the OS manufactor wants you to do and at this point phones are costing more then PC's. But hey maybe they should lock down your car if you purchase anything but the gas they tell you too lol....

    You buy it then it is yours do what you want with it no one puts up with this from any other vendor then cell. Hell MS got suied and lost cause it didn't give the option to uninstall IE.
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    I doubt that either Motorola or Verizon care about the relatively few people who would not buy the phone because of this. I would bet that less than 1% of people who buy the phone would even think about rooting it. Besides, if they can cause the phone to brick when trying to root then they can also tell that you tried and refuse to replace it under the standard 1 year warranty. This might be the main reason why they would do that.