Moto sets Droid X to brick itself if compromised

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  1. czerdrill

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    First of all this discussion is about as moot a discussion as possible because verizon is not going to change their policies. That being said ill humor you. This is NOT akin to being told you have to use windows 7...are you kidding me? This is them saying you can't use a hacked phone on their network without voiding your warranty or violating your tos. What's unfathomable is you arguing that you have a right to break their TOS and they have no right to enforce it...this thread iis becoming a joke now

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    Having Moto give options for different themes for a new cool look would subside the want to change the device for the most part imo. The more visually appealing my phone is the less I want to modify it and just use it.
     
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    New slogan: DROID USED TO
     
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    There are already home launchers, wallpapers, widgets and apps that allow you to customize. You can make whatever you want using the new tools without root access and without being a Java Programmer.

    This thread, and a few others, are spreading misinformation and should be closed.
     
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    What the heck did you smoke???? Lol!!!!!!!!
     
  6. czerdrill

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    obviously nothing close to what you smoke...

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    My GF got an X today, and after showing her the ins and outs of the Android OS I can pretty much say that in my opinion, there isn't much a reason to root this phone as of yet. Sure, I love to tinker as much as the next guy; but if it isn't broke, don't fix it, right? Straight outta the box her phone is quicker than mine (even though I'm overclocked to 1Ghz, and shes stock 1Ghz; and her phone gets way better battery time than mine. I'm all for having the guts of an electronic device exposed to the masses. In a perfect world, everything would be open source, developed by a community, and freely available to the masses. But fellas, thats just not how it is. Come hook or crook though, someone will crack this phone, in due time. Have we seen a widely popular phone that hasn't been cracked in one way or the other? I remember when the razor first came out, people where unlocking them so they could use full Mp3s instead of chopped down and reformated mp3 files for their ringtones. Right now, other than custom-clocking the CPU, and being able to customize a few things like the notification bar, and being able to remove stock apps; their really isn't much a reason (beyond those gigantic reasons IMO) to root one of these new phones.

    Do this for me, find someone who has one of these phones, and sit down with it for a few minutes. I'm sure you'll see that this thing simply smokes all, right of the box...just plain old stock.
     
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    Where in the TOS does it say your not allowed to have root access of your Android phone? I certainly never saw that part. Also, your analogy sucks. Yes, the race track can tell me I cant cut cookies on the grass, but they cant tell me what kind of gas to use, what accessories I can put on the car, or what color Im allowed to paint it.

    Its not Verizon, its Motoroloa that is locking devices. If Verizon cared, all new HTC and Samsung sets would be locked down too. And the last I checked the Milestone was not a Verizon phone, but guess what? Encrypted bootloader.
     
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    Like I said...you can root your phone you can put rocket packs on it you can paint it green and you can smash it into a million pieces. But if verizon says you can't tether...then you can't tether. What are you arguing really? You want verizon to allow you to do something they don't want you to do just because its your phone. What are you 11 yrs old? They can tell you what to do and you have to do it. This thread much like your post is useless. The racetrack can't tell you what gas to put in but they sure as hell can stop you from using that gas on their racetrack. And...you can't do crap about it. Sucks, huh?
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    Smells like flame in here.

    Either that, or I'm having a stroke...
     
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    Which is exactly my issue

    My wifi is NOT their network, yet I won't be able to run my own software on my own network (see: verizon strong arming skype into disabling wifi). This is no different than when Sony decided to install rootkits on their laptops and destroyed their marketshare.
     
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    hey do me a favor...when you figure out how to get on YOUR network with wifi on your droid, without having a contract with verizon, please tell me, i'd be dying to know how to get completely free cell service.

    or better yet, why dont you just cancel your verizon contract and use your wifi for free unlimited calls? let me know if that works.

    i'll wait.
     
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    Has anyone even seen a bricked phone because of EFuse? Not yet :D Its original intent is to "trip fuses" when there is too much load, allowing chips to reprogram themselves to take up the slack, I.E. share the load. It works like this:

    Lets say there are four "fuses" (chips)
    All four are taking their fair share of the process load.
    One starts to lag behind the others, or starts to take on more than it can handle.
    The three functional "fuses" take the load off the fourth "faulty" fuse.
    The "faulty" fuse trips, and gets reprogrammed.
    Then the load is passed back out evenly.

    This is the way that its originally intended to work. There is no evidence to support, other than rumors and hearsay, that this is somehow meant to cause a bricked phone if the core components are tampered with.

    I've also read that people think its there to stop the thing that allows for tethering without verizon's permission. (That would be rooting a phone, of course) A means to an end, if you will. I understand that verizon wants to make $ off of you everyway that they can...they are a soulless heartless corporate entity, and would probably shoot lightening out of their handsets killing all their customers if it meant a bigger profit margin in the long run. Come on though, seriously, just to keep people from tethering? There are FAR easier ways to prevent third party tethering. 1, sniffing the network traffic; 2, monitoring network up/down bandwidth consumption; 3, installing code in the OS to detect network sharing. These are just to name a few.

    I know the milestone is a touch cookie to crack, I know, I know; but that doesn't mean its impossible. It seems what people think would blow a fuse in the phone and brick it is the OS detect a third party bootloader. Emulation would solve that, in one fell swoop.

    Everyone just simmer down. Its been out 1....just 1 day. There are some very smart people pouring over this thing. Give it time, and cool down. :D

    In the mean time, if your lucky enough to have one of these things, enjoy something that is blazing fast right out of the box. No flashing required.
     
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    you can stop waiting...free calls using google voice...which happens to be available to the masses now... o_O


    This thread turned into a flame thread pretty quickly...