The Official DF Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release Thread

[b-jammin21]

http://m.computerworld.com/s/articl...oogle_pure_delight?taxonomyId=75&pageNumber=1

I want it. Especially since it just took me over 3 minutes to copy this link and then post it to this thread on my D1. It's getting painful to use this thing.

 

[screaminz2002]

I am just sooo glad we are back to 32GB. The world is right once again.

 

[anhanymouse]

The world won't be right until I have the gnexus in my hands.

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[screaminz2002]

Samsung Galaxy Nexus: Pure Google, pure delight - Computerworld

I want it. Especially since it just took me over 3 minutes to copy this link and then post it to this thread on my D1. It's getting painful to use this thing.

That was a great article and one of the best reviews I have read to date. Short, precise and to the point.

 

[jntdroid]

Did I read or see something last night that said it won't support USB mass storage, and therefore won't be able to txfr things back and forth via USB, easily anyway? Or did I dream that... sorry, on the road this morning.

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[Trusstopher]

Time for my morning catch-up post:

thats no pocket drop. thats airplane.

Am I detecting an attempt at a Star Wars Quote Parody? If so, well played, chap!! haha

Actually, face down the Nexus may fare better, as it could hit the plastic edges and absorb more of the fall.

I know what you're thinking with more surface area, but I think because it's not landing flat on the glass it could prevent some shattering.

I've always felt like a lot of front face falls crack because the surface they land on is uneven, not necessarily because it's a hard surface.

I see both sides of this... I think what it is going to come down two is if you lay the device screen side down, will it be laying on plastic bezel or the top and bottom edges of the screen because of the curve? If the bezel protrudes out even slightly more than the glass, it seems like the odds of a broken screen are reduced greatly.

Oh, btw... Has anyone seen any videos of testing it taking a bullet? If it wasn't $300 bucks, I'd take one out to the range!

To be honest, I think a D1 would fare better at taking a round than the Razr.

Eh I knew that was gonna happen. The material is not what you think it a plastic back with carbon fiber woven with kevlar with very little to no epoxy. Basically the cloth is there for show and to protect the back from minor scratches. The phone is not nearly as durable as they advertised and in this day where every one wants a bigger phone to feel lighter at a reasonable price it is hard to build it like the og droid. The only way to achieve light weight at a cheap price is with cheap composites and/or plastic. We can not have it all, either you want your device to be built like a tank with the weight that goes with it, you get light weight plastic, or you pay extra for advance light weight materials.

I had a lonngg post a few weeks back about this same thing. I used to think Carbon Fiber and Kevlar were these magical super strong end-all-be-all materials that could be used anywhere and everywhere. Then I did a semester of composites work while in college. Yeah, not so amazing in about 98% of structures applications, but that 2% where they are actually used, WOW! Anyway, the only real thing I wanted to comment on was where you said "light weight at a cheap price is with cheap composites and/or plastic"... short of going with fiber glass there really isn't such a thing as "cheap composites", especially when looking at the cost of manufacturing (and even fiber glass isn't that cheap either), Which is why I was amazed that they did go with the Kevlar backing. It seems like one of the most complicated materials to make half of a phone out of, but then again, they probably cut the difficulty (and cost) in half by making it non-removable.

 

[screaminz2002]

Did I read or see something last night that said it won't support USB mass storage, and therefore won't be able to txfr things back and forth via USB, easily anyway? Or did I dream that... sorry, on the road this morning.

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there was a thread on this but in short: it has a folder that functions like a SD card.

 

[ice456789]

Re: the Razr drop test-

Does anyone here actually believe that the kevlar back will actually prevent any damage that a normal phone back wouldn't? Has anyone ever dropped a phone and broken the back of it!?! Corner-yes. Front-yes. Side-yes. Camera-yes. Backplate-no. I'd have been more impressed if they had used kevlar on the edges and corners where phones actually take a beating. But really it's all just advertising, it doesn't provide any purpose. I'm surprised it doesn't have an adamantium volume rocker for extra awesomeness.

I've dropped my OG plenty of times onto concrete and that tank of a phone just keeps on ticking. Yeah the corners are scratched up but the screen is pristine. Because of the composite in the GN, I will probably be getting a case.

By the way, someone mentioned that keys don't scratch glass and that's correct but they do crack it. If you push a key down on the middle of the glass or tap it on the glass it may crack if it is not 'fortified'. That's the real danger keys pose to a phone in your pocket. Does anyone actually throw their keys in the same pocket as their phone? Also, many phone screens are not actually glass. Most of today's smartphones use some kind of scratch-proof glass derivative but some real low end or older phones use plastic. My LG Dare has tons of scratches because it is just a plastic or plexiglass screen.

 

[jntdroid]

Adamantium... now there's an idea!

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[jntdroid]

there was a thread on this but in short: it has a folder that functions like a SD card.

Thanks for clarifying.

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[INCREMENTAL]

Time for my morning catch-up post:




Am I detecting an attempt at a Star Wars Quote Parody? If so, well played, chap!! haha



I see both sides of this... I think what it is going to come down two is if you lay the device screen side down, will it be laying on plastic bezel or the top and bottom edges of the screen because of the curve? If the bezel protrudes out even slightly more than the glass, it seems like the odds of a broken screen are reduced greatly.



To be honest, I think a D1 would fare better at taking a round than the Razr.



I had a lonngg post a few weeks back about this same thing. I used to think Carbon Fiber and Kevlar were these magical super strong end-all-be-all materials that could be used anywhere and everywhere. Then I did a semester of composites work while in college. Yeah, not so amazing in about 98% of structures applications, but that 2% where they are actually used, WOW! Anyway, the only real thing I wanted to comment on was where you said "light weight at a cheap price is with cheap composites and/or plastic"... short of going with fiber glass there really isn't such a thing as "cheap composites", especially when looking at the cost of manufacturing (and even fiber glass isn't that cheap either), Which is why I was amazed that they did go with the Kevlar backing. It seems like one of the most complicated materials to make half of a phone out of, but then again, they probably cut the difficulty (and cost) in half by making it non-removable.

That 2% u must be talking about is all the carbon fiber and kevlar they use in racing products right? I work in a machine shop around billet aluminum, magnesium and steel all day. U can't beat metal, u just can't but metal does come at a price and weight when used. I get so frustrated at these companies when u buy something and its made out of plastic instead of metal so usually if I can make it ill just throw it in the CNC machine and make it.

Anyways back to your 2%, kevlar and carbon fiber has never been the end all be all materials. They are simply a strong material that is lightweight. The racing industry probably uses more of it then anybody else on earth, they thrive on it. For example take formula one, without a doubt the most advanced cars in racing, probably more avance then any car on earth, the complete shell of the car is covered in carbon fiber and kevlar. Ferrari has even did their own thing of making hollow carbon fiber driveshafts hence why the cars cost over 5 million lol.

I thank the problem is a lot of people thank the materials r superhuman or something, they are expensive, they are light, they r still new and they serve their purpose where they need to is all. What's on the Razr is nice, it is indeed a nice selling point. Many of u probably haven't thought about it but the metal battery door on the back of the OG is just as strong, u can't beat metal and there was no selling point there.

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[SSHGuru]

Re: the Razr drop test-

Does anyone here actually believe that the kevlar back will actually prevent any damage that a normal phone back wouldn't? Has anyone ever dropped a phone and broken the back of it!?! Corner-yes. Front-yes. Side-yes. Camera-yes. Backplate-no. I'd have been more impressed if they had used kevlar on the edges and corners where phones actually take a beating. But really it's all just advertising, it doesn't provide any purpose. I'm surprised it doesn't have an adamantium volume rocker for extra awesomeness.

I've dropped my OG plenty of times onto concrete and that tank of a phone just keeps on ticking. Yeah the corners are scratched up but the screen is pristine. Because of the composite in the GN, I will probably be getting a case.

By the way, someone mentioned that keys don't scratch glass and that's correct but they do crack it. If you push a key down on the middle of the glass or tap it on the glass it may crack if it is not 'fortified'. That's the real danger keys pose to a phone in your pocket. Does anyone actually throw their keys in the same pocket as their phone? Also, many phone screens are not actually glass. Most of today's smartphones use some kind of scratch-proof glass derivative but some real low end or older phones use plastic. My LG Dare has tons of scratches because it is just a plastic or plexiglass screen.

Kevlar was needed to make it so thin and water resistant.

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[jntdroid]

The problem with the Razr is they misspelled it.

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[Trusstopher]

That 2% u must be talking about is all the carbon fiber and kevlar they use in racing products right? I work in a machine shop around billet aluminum, magnesium and steel all day. U can't beat metal, u just can't but metal does come at a price and weight when used. I get so frustrated at these companies when u buy something and its made out of plastic instead of metal so usually if I can make it ill just throw it in the CNC machine and make it.

Anyways back to your 2%, kevlar and carbon fiber has never been the end all be all materials. They are simply a strong material that is lightweight. The racing industry probably uses more of it then anybody else on earth, they thrive on it. For example take formula one, without a doubt the most advanced cars in racing, probably more avance then any car on earth, the complete shell of the car is covered in carbon fiber and kevlar. Ferrari has even did their own thing of making hollow carbon fiber driveshafts hence why the cars cost over 5 million lol.

I thank the problem is a lot of people thank the materials r superhuman or something, they are expensive, they are light, they r still new and they serve their purpose where they need to is all. What's on the Razr is nice, it is indeed a nice selling point. Many of u probably haven't thought about it but the metal battery door on the back of the OG is just as strong, u can't beat metal and there was no selling point there.

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While racing is huge into composites, I would say the number 1 industry to utilize CF would be the aviation industry.

 

[Trusstopher]

Kevlar was needed to make it so thin and water resistant.

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Could have been down just as easily with metals/plastics and chemical coatings but at a cost of weight and/or appearance.