How to train a Li-Ion Battery

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Once i get the Galaxy Nexus, i know i will have to "train" the battery.

I know that I should let it charge all the way down then charge it back up to 100% for the first run.

Besides that, what else should i do once i first get my phone/daily?

Is the routine of charging overnight good for a battery?
 

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TBH, I have never followed this 100-dead business. I always charge it full before activation, then use as normal and it is always plugged in overnight.

Also, if you get into ROMs, I always flash at 90% battery or higher. Just one of those OCD things I guess.
 

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You dont need to condition these batteries. That was the old NiCad batteries. There are charging methods that help them last a little longer though. Others know more than I do about this though.

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I know that I should let it charge all the way down then charge it back up to 100% for the first run.
This is false for Li-ion batteries. This is rule-of-thumb with Nickle-based batteries, but has incorrectly been applied to Li-ion.
They have no memory effect, which means that you do not have to completely discharge them before recharging, as with some other battery chemistries
If you completely discharge a lithium-ion battery, it is ruined.
Quotes taken from HowStuffWorks "How Lithium-ion Batteries Work"
 

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This is false for Li-ion batteries. This is rule-of-thumb with Nickle-based batteries, but has incorrectly been applied to Li-ion.


Quotes taken from HowStuffWorks "How Lithium-ion Batteries Work"

I agree with the above. Do whatever makes you feel better about your battery. You don't need to train it unless mayhap the manufacturer says to.

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Actually there is circuitry in Li-ion batterys that prevent a true full discharge of the battery. But as stated above if it was possible to drain a Li-ion battery all the way down to zero it would not function. Phones only operate on certain voltages once a battery is unable to produce the required voltage the phone recognizes it as Dead/empty and it shuts off. There is still a charge in the battery but it is two weak to power the phone.

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Wow, thanks guys. im going to charge it to 0% anyways, just to be safe. it cant hurt. Verizon reps told me to charge it to 0%. It just shows how little they acutally know about androids
 

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Wow, thanks guys. im going to charge it to 0% anyways, just to be safe. it cant hurt. Verizon reps told me to charge it to 0%. It just shows how little they acutally know about androids

Actually, discharging LiIon batteries down to low levels does harm the battery. Do it enough, and your battery will not hold a charge as well. Long story short, top off the charge whenever (like nightly), rather than let it run down to low levels.
 

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Wow, thanks guys. im going to charge it to 0% anyways, just to be safe. it cant hurt. Verizon reps told me to charge it to 0%. It just shows how little they acutally know about androids

Don't listen to the Verizon reps. We know much more about phones than they do.

When I was looking at the Razr I was showing the rep that sold me the phone things about it that he was totally unaware of. Then I started asking questions that I already knew the answer to and he was wrong about every single one.

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Don't listen to the Verizon reps. We know much more about phones than they do.

When I was looking at the Razr I was showing the rep that sold me the phone things about it that he was totally unaware of. Then I started asking questions that I already knew the answer to and he was wrong about every single one.

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That's always fun!
 
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so what are you guys going to do for the battery when you first get the phone?
 

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Wow, thanks guys. im going to charge it to 0% anyways, just to be safe. it cant hurt. Verizon reps told me to charge it to 0%. It just shows how little they acutally know about androids

If they know so little, why are you going to do what they say?

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its in my blood. When clearing battery stats, the guides say to charge it to 100% then clear then DIScharge to 0 and charge back to 100. So why does that apply there and not in this situation?
 
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