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Motorola Droid 2.1

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Sorry i was on my phone and it posted it 3 time or more.... please delete those.
the site jumps around on my droid

and again sorry for the post
 
blitzburgh39 said:
and if im not first. im manually installing. i would rather be stock and up to date instead of modded. you know? like im only rooted for the mean time. once 2.1 comes out im sure ill root... but like i wont be looking to do anything other than overclocking.
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OK... now your making sense!.. "not that you wer'nt before, but just over my head with the funny names and terms!"
( i do not have sholes. nor do i have information on it. so i cant really recommend anything. im using evilboot8. to overclock. not bugless beauty)
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Just about the time I think I'm starting to get the idea, a whole new page turns and I see a different direction to take and I"m thankful I haven't jumped yet.

I know there are always several ways to achieve the same thing, but when it comes to messing with firmware, I don't like to play around "but once".

I've wondered "why do the root" when we now have so many 2.1 apps out there that are ported to 2.0.1 without the need to root?...

Obviously it sounds like the main answer is OverClock ability which I agree, is a worthy reason.

I don't understand these smartphone processors like computer cpu's.
Normally competition causes the computer cpu's to be released clocked high enough that its difficult to go much higher without alternative means of heat dissipation etc.
So how does the Droid get away with 72% more speed (550mhz X 1.72 = 950mhz)? Must be because its idled down that far from the Motorola....
But why didn't they clock it higher in the first place?...... Maybe they will with 2.1 but I doubt too much.... "it would be ashamed to compete with their Nexus flagship you know"

So I said all that to say.... is there a real advantage to Rooting other than Overclock abilities?

Sorry if my rational is without knowledge.. I"m trying...
 
windstrings said:
blitzburgh39 said:
and if im not first. im manually installing. i would rather be stock and up to date instead of modded. you know? like im only rooted for the mean time. once 2.1 comes out im sure ill root... but like i wont be looking to do anything other than overclocking.
Click to expand...


OK... now your making sense!.. "not that you wer'nt before, but just over my head with the funny names and terms!"
( i do not have sholes. nor do i have information on it. so i cant really recommend anything. im using evilboot8. to overclock. not bugless beauty)
Click to expand...
Just about the time I think I'm starting to get the idea, a whole new page turns and I see a different direction to take and I"m thankful I haven't jumped yet.

I know there are always several ways to achieve the same thing, but when it comes to messing with firmware, I don't like to play around "but once".

I've wondered "why do the root" when we now have so many 2.1 apps out there that are ported to 2.0.1 without the need to root?...

Obviously it sounds like the main answer is OverClock ability which I agree, is a worthy reason.

I don't understand these smartphone processors like computer cpu's.
Normally competition causes the computer cpu's to be released clocked high enough that its difficult to go much higher without alternative means of heat dissipation etc.
So how does the Droid get away with 72% more speed (550mhz X 1.72 = 950mhz)? Must be because its idled down that far from the Motorola....
But why didn't they clock it higher in the first place?...... Maybe they will with 2.1 but I doubt too much.... "it would be ashamed to compete with their Nexus flagship you know"

So I said all that to say.... is there a real advantage to Rooting other than Overclock abilities?

Sorry if my rational is without knowledge.. I"m trying...
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i use root to overclock. you can also add themes. or make them. or easily install roms and such. there are also some programs you can use with root only. like the screen capture app.
 
blitzburgh39 said:
i use root to overclock. you can also add themes. or make them. or easily install roms and such. there are also some programs you can use with root only. like the screen capture app.
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Not sure what a rom is.... "read only memory" is the only term I know.

I sounds like "for me" the overclocking is the main benefit..... any ideas on how or why we can get away with overclocking so high compared to where we run stock?... is our cpu's really dialed back that far?.... seems crazy why they would purposely limit the performance unless its to allow for bigger and better later "market smarts" to make more money.
 
windstrings said:
blitzburgh39 said:
i use root to overclock. you can also add themes. or make them. or easily install roms and such. there are also some programs you can use with root only. like the screen capture app.
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Not sure what a rom is.... "read only memory" is the only term I know.

I sounds like "for me" the overclocking is the main benefit..... any ideas on how or why we can get away with overclocking so high compared to where we run stock?... is our cpu's really dialed back that far?.... seems crazy why they would purposely limit the performance unless its to allow for bigger and better later "market smarts" to make more money.
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the cpu was built to run at 600mhz. but underclocked by motorola. overclocking is the biggest benefit imo. i just overclocked to 1ghz.... it seems exactly the same as 800mhz
 
well. i just read that in order to really get the most out of the 1ghz kernel you have to have atleast 70k free of ram... i usually have around 10k. i just killed some apps and i got to 57k..... wtf? why can tthe droid have more ram. thats one downfall
 
blitzburgh39 said:
the cpu was built to run at 600mhz. but underclocked by motorola. overclocking is the biggest benefit imo. i just overclocked to 1ghz.... it seems exactly the same as 800mhz
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I don't know the "names" of the processors used in each phone but I"m starting to wonder if the Nexus has the same processor as the Droid???....

Opps... did I mention the unmentionable? sometimes they throw a little more cache memory or such and its the same processor and give it another name.

When you can clock a processor up to 1 Gig... thats almost double the released speed out of the box... it just makes you wonder.

That leads me to the next question... does overclocking give you virtually the same abilities as the Nexus?

God forbid that gets to the press! ..... LOL!

Maybe 2.1 is just a teaser to smooth things out for good with the Droid and all future attention will be directed at the Nexus "which is reasonable if you think about it".
 
windstrings said:
blitzburgh39 said:
the cpu was built to run at 600mhz. but underclocked by motorola. overclocking is the biggest benefit imo. i just overclocked to 1ghz.... it seems exactly the same as 800mhz
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I don't know the "names" of the processors used in each phone but I"m starting to wonder if the Nexus has the same processor as the Droid???....

Opps... did I mention the unmentionable? sometimes they throw a little more cache memory or such and its the same processor and give it another name.

When you can clock a processor up to 1 Gig... thats almost double the released speed out of the box... it just makes you wonder.

That leads me to the next question... does overclocking give you virtually the same abilities as the Nexus?

God forbid that gets to the press! ..... LOL!

Maybe 2.1 is just a teaser to smooth things out for good with the Droid and all future attention will be directed at the Nexus "which is reasonable if you think about it".
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nope two completely different architectures. droid is TI omap w gpu chip built in, the N! uses I believe a qualcomm snapdragon cpu. the snap is faster clock wise but as we've seen moto was very conservative in clocking the chip
and with a dedicated inboard gpu we're frankly on par with each other if the droid is overclocked.....
seems more like "unlocked" to its real speed
 
windstrings said:
blitzburgh39 said:
the cpu was built to run at 600mhz. but underclocked by motorola. overclocking is the biggest benefit imo. i just overclocked to 1ghz.... it seems exactly the same as 800mhz
Click to expand...


I don't know the "names" of the processors used in each phone but I"m starting to wonder if the Nexus has the same processor as the Droid???....

Opps... did I mention the unmentionable? sometimes they throw a little more cache memory or such and its the same processor and give it another name.
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Well, I can tell you that they are absolutely different chips........Nexus uses the Snapdragon by Qualcomm, Droid uses ARM by TI (or OMAP3somethin). However, it's entirely possible that TI clocked down a bunch of our chips to 550 when they could easily run 1G. I'm sure the Droid was a pretty big order to fill, they may have used chips they even KNEW were more powerful, just to make the sale.
 
So I"ve just reviewed one of the root guides here.... a mere 62 steps....

If the 2.1 OTA update comes out and we utilize it.... just how much do we need to do to simply get overclock abilites?
 
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