We want freedom for our phones! (Bloatware)

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  1. hAHAha Halo
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    -BEFORE POSTING ABOUT THE 'ANNOUNCEMENT' READ BOTTOM OF THIS POST-
    I've understood that Verizon is getting some money by putting apps on our phones from other companies, but with the recent announcement that the Bionics are going to be discontinued, we can expect less updates and Bionic-specific accessories. With that being said, and I've never been one to appose Bloatware before, but I've looked through these apps, I've looked through the reviews of these apps, and I've seen the light: we should have options for these apps.

    On my phone:
    Verizon Video takes up 20.59M
    NFL Mobile takes up 14.64M
    Verizon Navigator takes up 9.77M
    Citrix takes up 8.58M

    They continually decrease, but there are more apps than just that—those are the big ones, and we have a fixed set amount of storage. I know every phone has preinstalled apps, but I believe Verizon has the most Bloatware as far as big-league phone companies. I've seen in the comments of the Bloatware that many people are giving one star ratings and actually "boycotting" app updates.. Whether boycotting actually has an impact on Verizon, we don't know, but the ratings are low for Bloatware apps.

    As quoted by the many who have said this before: Speak Out while you still can. We're not going to be receiving many more updates, I'd like to see the day when Bloatware are just optional apps.

    Open for petition, discussion, and debate.

    EDIT: Indeed, they are only RUMORS that the Bionics are going to be discontinued. But True or False, we need to have more say in our phones because as the Bionic ages month by month, we will hear less and less about updates.

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    Agreed 100%

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    + 2, I'm sick of bloatware!
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    What official statement have you seen/heard/read that indicates this rumor is true?
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    There hasn't been an official announcement. The bionic is not being discontinued, and I am so sick of people taking internet rumor and reporting it as fact.
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    Edited the starter post.

    I went through the app drawer and picked out which ones (that are nonremovable) are essential, ones that should be the basics. The apps that I found essential came to a total of 40 apps, and the number of preloaded apps came to a total of 57.

    17 apps may not seem like much, but when those apps are taking up 5 or 10+ megabytes of storage, it gets kinda ridiculous. This number can be higher depending on your opinions, for example, I did not include the starter help guides as Bloatware, but we should be able to get rid of that after we're familiar with our phones..

    We don't use it. We don't want it. We should delete it.

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    This is why we have custom roms, and you can always freeze/uninstall the bloatware
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    Must we root to get what we want? I will admit I rooted my OG after the warranty expired, but it wasn't worth it in the end. I flashed 30+ roms and in the end I had a processor so worn down that half the screen didn't work.

    Fastforwarding to today, I don't want to go through the trouble of rooting just to remove some apps. It's not worth the risk to me. And if that was EVERYONE'S solution to Bloatware, what would be the point of Google making new softwares. People would just flash their own softwares over it. We'd be buying just hardware in the future, the preinstalled software would probably just be a setup screen, "Welcome! Please upload your preferred software to begin. "

    I like having the stock software, I find it has actually less bugs than custom roms, it's never gone wrong for me, overall rooting isn't worth the risk.

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    My god what "statement"? Internet rumor ftw here..... jesus people get it together!

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    Well, they don't want people to access files that can mess up their phone.

    -AqworldThunder ;) ^…^ ¶.¶ *.* Thank me if i helped please!
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    I fail to see the trouble or risk of rooting these days. Rooting will have no adverse affects on your hardware and you can always flash back to unrooted stock. The majority of smartphone users don't care or even know what bloatware is. Companies recieve a majority of their profits from advertising, which in on these platforms is bloatware. If you have the tools (which we do) it seems like its easier for us to root and choose our own apps than to expect a company to sacrifice a good chunk of their income to satisfy the few.
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    As stated by others and as an double edit in the post, and I personally have stated, the Bionic discontinuation is just a rumor, coming from an unlikely source. BUT IN THE NAME OF THIS THREAD, we need more control over our phones, what we have on it, and without rooting. I want control over certain apps, not over the entire coding system of my phone.

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    So just so I'm straight on this. You have the option to root, giving you control over your device. Which means you can do all or nothing with it if you choose. But thats not enough? You need the the device manufactor to cater to your needs? It takes a matter of minutes to root and get rid of your issues (bloatware) but choose not too. I'm lost on what you really want them to do? lose the income from their bloatware providers?
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    Good point. If they lose that income they'll be even less inclined to provide care an attention to upgrades/patches/etc. Yes they suck at doing that stuff now but asking more perfection in an imperfect world is insanity.

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    And on a side note, the amount of storage bloatware and system apps take up is a moot point. I have a total of 280 apps (system and downloaded) and stillbhave 2.5 gb of storage left.
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    I have 77 apps and using 859 megs of the dedicated 4 gigs allocated to app storage. I use maybe 10 of those apps on a regular basis and the rest are rainy day time killers. While the per-installed apps (bloatware) are definitely an eyesore as I scan past them each time I open my app tray, they are hardly having the detriment on my memory storage that some claim to be experiencing.

    If the NFL and Citrix want to pay Verizon and subsidize the cost of my phone, then so be it. I knew the phone had these apps on it when I bought it. I knew I would never use them, accepted it, and moved on.

    If you choose not to root, then you can always set up your app screen to display only the apps you want it to. The bloat is still there, but you won't be looking at it.
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    I think a large percentage of folks around here would prefer your future scenario, I know I would.
    But there are a whole lot more folks who use their phones stock, wont come to a message board to discuss their phones, or even download an app (I had to show my sister how to get a different wallpaper) I think the majority of smartphone owners out there hardly give this stuff a second thought.
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    I always kinda though Jesus People DID have it together.....

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    Bloatware never really bothered me, I didn't notice it before uninstalling it, and of course don't notice it now! And really we have huge amounts of app space on the bionic so even 50 apps at 20 MB a piece would hardly put a dent in it.

    Also lol at someone mentioning that their "processor was worn down" on their og Droid. Hah!

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    Personally, I feel there is middle ground here. If Verizon persists on including bloatware, why not install it with a time trigger that would allow you to uninstall after a period of time, or, choose to keep it. I might then even be amenable to an occasional push of "Would you like to try one of these highly recommend apps..." advertisers would pay for that and you'd have a choice. It would be more likely to be viewed as a service than a nuisance. I think Verizon has a very non-creative marketing staff.


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