The FTC and FCC curious why Android OEMs are so slow with updates

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  1. dgstorm

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    Interesting... it looks like Google's Android OEMs have drawn the attention of the FTC and the FCC because of their slow rate of Android updates: The FTC and FCC both want to know why Android manufacturers are so slow with updates

    What do you folks think? Is this something regulators should investigate, or avoid sticking their noses in it?
     
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    Yes, getting a little pressure from the FTC & FCC could be a good thing. They are already being regulated so let's have the regulators do their jobs and actually have a positive effect.

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    Which carrier is behind this? Ultimately a lobbyist group of some kind is behind it . We'll see is any carrier(s) get spanked over it in the end or if it's just more election year smoke up our behinds. They're not political expressly but are headed up by political appointees.

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    I don't believe it is something that should be policed... I am someone who feels we aren't entitled to updates. I feel we get them as a courtesy.. I know some argue that with the high dollars they spend on a device they are entitled to get updates but OEM's factor the cost of supporting that device beyond the purchase year... If they don't have to feel the need to support them I feel that price will go down.....

    Don't get me wrong I love a new cool feature packed update and get antsy for them to come along but deep down appreciate the updates as a courtesy and not a requirement...
     
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    I took it more as them wondering why security patches aren't quickly released. Not omgheerd marshmallow is here but why can't I get it.
     
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    In away I sort of agree. I do not think the government need to interfere. Consumers are capable of doing that themselves. Government agencies sound like they are going to drop the hammer but about time we go through the lawyers and rebuttals we are 2 or 3 years removed.
    Consumers on the other hand can make a statement right then.
    At the end of the day money talks. Companies know if they are pleasing the consumers by the money they bring in.

    Now where we have a problem is if the manufacturer releases a security update and the carrier refuses to release it until they can package it with bloat (ie make money off the update) therefore intentionally putting a device at risk so they can make a buck. Especially since customers can not get the update without the carrier (unless you have a Nexus or iPhone).

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    This is it that exactly how I interpreted the information on the post and the story behind it. It seems that we miss out on several interim security and error updates because of delays and actually wind up skipping over several of them in favor of a much larger package once the carrier has given it a seal of approval. This means that we as carrier-based phone owners are subject to greater risk during the periods of time when the updates have not yet been applied whereas the owners of the Nexus devices are kept as secure as possible and as bug-free as possible by the updates coming immediately upon their completion.


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    Well said!

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    Who would have thought the words "most secure device (Android)" and "Nexus" would be in the same sentence. Wow has the Android landscape changed.

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    Big brother trying to further micro manage another aspect of our lives...i agree I'd like to timelier updates and and make companies do them and not back out..i sort of agree that the updates are a bonus..but for 600+ I think there should be some form of future support other than just warranty..but that's just me..
     
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    If the OEM's are slackers, I see no issue with the Gov protecting me and getting involved...
     
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    Especially since they are already being regulated by the govt. My point earlier was just that. I'm already paying for them to regulate/police so might as well get some real benefit out of it.

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