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Discussion in 'Rescue Squad Help' started by as30young, Aug 12, 2010.

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    Ota 2.2 update
    Rooted with easy root then I unrooted uninstalled superuser. Next I rooted again with easy root. Said I was rooted but no superuser app. DL app to sd card and installed. Still terminal says denied. Can't use anything in rom manager although when I rooted the first time I did flash clockwork. What givs? I'm lost! I think I need to go back to 2.1 and start over? If I do this will superuser, and easy root be gone or will I need to uninstall first? Thanks rescue squad! I am new at this...but gaining lots of knowledge here.
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    Or maybe give us some more info to go on. What model phone? If it's the Droid 1, go here: menu -> settings -> about phone and tell us what the last half of the screen says. Also, when you boot into recovery (hold down the 'x' key on the hard keyboard while powering the phone up), describe what it looks like there.

    Thank you.

    p.s. I wish we could stop throwing around using RSD lite so freely, with all the problems and the finikyness of RSD Lite can't we look to something else first?
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    Droid, 2.2, c_01.43.01P, 2.6.32.9 g103d8948, FRGOB1
    When you say boot into recovery what/where is that?
    I did do the rsdlit/.sbf and when I press up on dpad while booting it doesn't give me an option to use as admin. Just a black screen that says bootloader at the top.
    Thanks again!!
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    Sorry guess I just needed to read what you wrote again....I did the x and got a triangle with an exclamation point in it & a pic of a phone.
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    If you are seeing a triangle with and ! in the center, that is the stock recovery and indicates that you are not rooted. You also said that the superuser ninja is missing out of your app drawer. So I would say that you are not rooted. I have been seeing a lot of issues for folks that are using easy root. I would suggest starting over from the beginning and follow the guide in my signature. That will get you root and then you can install any rom of your choice.

    Let us know if you have more questions.
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    Ok...I do have the superuser app still & easy root says I'm rooted but obviously I'm not. Do I need to start over by going back to stock?
    Thanks again!!
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    First ditch easy root. Never use it again. All I have seen since it came out is the forums getting flooded with problems related to it.

    Mods, change the thread in the news section?

    Anyways, you ARE stock now. If you want to root, follow the link in dlwhtrose's signature. Read the whole thing, realize it's not foolproof, you'll need to use only box option 01 and box option 05. That alone will not root your phone. Then if you like go to my guides in my sig and use the one to root and install busybox manually.

    good luck
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    I'm open to suggestions. What would you suggest?
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    Follow the guide in my signature. It is very simple and step-by-step. Although some complain about it, RSD Lite is our most successful method to flash an alternate recovery onto a non-rooted phone and by doing so you will gain root access. I have not seen very many complaints about RSD Lite. Most problems people are experiencing is with ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery. While I have been lucky with CW/RM others have not. The main goal here is to get you root access then no matter which recovery you choose to use (SPRecovery or ClockworkMod) you will be able to flash any ROM of your choosing.
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    Out of extreme curiosity, the one click root method, does it install SU to /system/bin or /system/xbin?
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    I'm a little late to this party, but it sounded like the OP's only issue was his su wasn't working. It sounded like he still had a custom recovery on there. If that's the case, the simplest thing to do would be to reinstall just su and Superuser.apk with the update.zip that contains nothing but that. If for some reason his Clockwork Recovery won't boot (I didn't read anything that indicated that -- just that ROM Manager wasn't working -- which it won't because his su was trashed), then flashing on SPRecovery with RSDlite would make sense.

    Am I all wet here?

    P.S. I stick with SPRecovery. Maybe there's nothing wrong with ROM Manager and Clockwork, but I don't read a bunch of issues with SPRecovery, but tons with ROM Manager and Clockwork. And EasyRoot just seems like a bad idea altogether. For a phone I care about, I stick with the original "flash SPRecovery, load ROM as update.zip". Rock solid, never has any trouble (for me). If you flip/flop ROMS on and off on a daily basis, maybe the other is more convenient, but that's just begging for trouble in my book.
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    He has stock recovery.
    RSDlite or sbf seems like the easiest answer to this.
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    Important detail - missed that part on scanning the topic. Big difference.
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    I don't mean to go against the grain here, but I've had experience with RSD Lite since v2.x. Anyways if a person needs to unroot their phone, I've added a new link in my sig for doing so. It's a guide here that I wrote by request of pc747. IMHO using RSD Lite should be almost a last resort as the usage of it varies so much now that we have Vista and Win7; both 32 and 64 bit. It was bad enough when we had to specify that it only worked with WinXP SP2.

    @ dlwhtrose, your repeat I agree to somewhat as indicated above. The only problem is that the thread linked in your sig needs to be updated for the Froyo builds. I.e. no one can use the SPRecovery_ESE81.sbf (the original name) file if they are on unrooted FRG01B. Or worse botched unrooted froyo using EasyRoot. SPRecovery_ESE81.sbf was ONLY designed for UNROOTED 2.1/ESE81 people.

    The OP hasn't been back, so we can hope he is on the right road. Nice to see Doug here, though.
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    Thanks. I did a whole write up about manually flashing recovery, making sure su was in /system/bin and with the right permissions blah blah blah. Like the old ways. Then i re-read about the device being on 2.2(head-slap) and thought the old method would never work what was I thinking. Been away from the moto world for to long. Just last week I rooted a d1 for the first since the old update.zip and manually flashing recovery. You Droid people have it to easy now :p
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    On my droid, i rooted using sbf. No issues at all.

    Wifes phone i rooted the same way. Both of us run the same rom just different themes but that is not the point of this.......

    Don't give "easy root" a bad name. If you don't know what you are doing you won't understand it. You need to know "root" before using it.

    Once you use "easy root" to root you need to select the "busybox" and install that. Easy root will take you to the market to do that. Once that happens all you have to do is install rom manager (all done within easy root). Then once you have rom manager all you have to do is scroll to the bottom to get sprecovery installed. Just select "flash alternate" recovery.

    I just did this on a friends droid at dinner the other night. 20 mins from stock 2.1 to Froyo 2.2 running UD 6.0.0. (and themed)

    Read up people......you need to understand root and what it does before you go messing around with it. If you don't have good knowledge then most likely you will have issues. Without a doubt

    Understanding how "easy root" works is simple if you have rooted the hard way (not really hard, just harder than easy root)
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    I think Huskr kind of hits the nail on the head. The problem with EasyRoot, ROM Manager and the like is that it makes complex things a little too easy for those who don't really understand them. Then when things go wrong they are totally lost because they really didn't know what they were doing to begin with. Obviously I'm not saying this is the case with everyone who has trouble, but a tool is just a tool. What it does depends upon the person who wields it. Then again, a bad tool will yield bad results in any hand. I guess the difference is the craftsman can tell a tool that is doing what it should from one that isn't and throws the bad tool in the trash.
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    +1 huskr. Ah now I see, and yes what you said must be EXACTLY why people are having troubles with easyroot. Almost every app that requires root requires busybox as well. That's why my guide for the 'hard way' includes both rooting and installing the busybox binary in one write-up.

    See doug, we still don't have it that easy, lol. And yeah, there's probably some of your material in my guides.
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    I haven't done anything yet. I have 2.2 FRGO81B and from what I've read the SPRecovery_ESE81.sbf will not work? What will give me root? & when I'm rooted will superuser (which is still in my app folder) work or will I need to do something for that to work? Same with Rom manager? ...sorry I'm getting a little confused. thanks for all the help.
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