Eris worth the trouble???

Discussion in 'HTC Droid Eris' started by estilo, Jan 18, 2011.

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    I received an Eris I purchased on ebay today for $90. Works fine, no water damage.

    I went to my local verizon retailer today, and the salesmen strongly urged me to resell the phone because it is "nothing but trouble". Battery life, reception, freezes, slow, etc.

    He started recommending other phones, Droid X, Incredible, etc. I told him I wasn't interested in signing a contract, and I got a good deal on this phone, and that's why I got it. I really only need to talk,text - I just want a current style phone.

    Then I asked him about the $15 data plan and he said I will definitely go over it and be charged for doing so. Told me because of background processes, it is virtually impossible to stay under the 150mb limit. I told him at the current time I can't justify paying $30. He guaranteed I would go over it.

    I ended up not activating the phone. I want some true advice about how the Eris works and its reliability. Also, I want to know if it is possible to get by on the $15 data. I personally think he was just trying to get me to sign into a contract or upgrade to make commission.

    Any opinions appreciated. I really like the phone as well.
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    It is a "low end" or "beginner" smart phone. It is nothing special, but it is a reliable phone, especially if you root it. Im not sure about the 150mb data plan, Ive never tried. Just to give you a comparison, 5 days into my billing cycle, and I have already used 109.619 MB. I am more of a "power user" on my Driod. My wife on the other hand isnt a power user, and she has only used 19.576 M on her Eris. People expect it to run like an X or an Inc, and it is nowhere near capable of coming close to either phones.
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    Where can you check your data usage? I'm assuming that is non-wifi?

    I also turned the "Mobile network" box off. I also unchecked "Enable always-on mobile data".
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    Log into your Verizon account on line, from the homepage under "Bill", click "View Usage", and scroll down to Domestic Data Used.
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    I believe the Eris is "worth it". However I also agree with the Verizon dude. Let me explain.

    The Eris is a nice little device. For me one of the fun things with this phone has been making it perform the way I'd like it to. There is a thread here on tricks and tips (I think it should have been a sticky) to making the Eris a very good smartphone. Also, I paid $50 13 months ago for my Eris, and got one for my wife too for free. At the time getting into a smartphone was usually at least a $200 proposition. So from a cost standpoint the Eris was well worth it. Remember this phone came out at the same time as the original Droid. And that brick was too much for me to haul around. And I have no use for a physical keyboard.

    Now, why the Verizon dude was right. Since the Eris has come out there are so many more options. Droid, 2, X, Pro, HTC Incredible, not to mention Samsung and LG options. While I have enjoyed my year with my Eris, I am counting down the days until August when I can upgrade (probably to the forthcoming Droid Bionic). Also, 150MB for a smartphone is nothing. Anyone that thinks they can stay under that limit is fooling themselves. $30/month is 3 fewer trips to fast food a month. That is worth the unlimited data and the peace of mind that comes from knowing you can't get hammered for a heavy usage month.

    I would suggest activating the Eris, having a ball with it, and when you are ready you can upgrade to something newer. Also, at $90 you are already in the green? Why? Because Verizon has a buy back plan, and currently is giving $132 for the Eris! Click here: Verizon Trade In (Okay, the catch is that it is a Verizon gift card, but that is a healthy chunk towards getting one of the new smartphones.)
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    I completely agree with everything BD and Lonewolfarcher said. I'm gonna just add a couple things.

    First, opinion on the Eris is based on expectations. A verizon sales rep sees all the powerful devices all day and sees the Eris like a Jaguar dealer would see a Yugo. For me though, I used Palm Treos without data for years so I'm still really happy with my Eris.

    Also, there's a "my verizon" app that allows you to easily monitor usage. There's even a widget that displays data usage. I don't think it'll be a problem to stay under 150mb as long as you stay off the browser.

    And therein lies your decision. If you are gonna stay off the browser, your limiting yourself to having a phone that you can also use like a pda. Which is great, but don't fool yourself, it's not gonna be much fun. No video, no pandora, etc. You'll be able to use the calendar, have to do lists, check email, play your own music, and use the market as long as your careful (so you can play games), but that's about it.

    If all that is within your expectations, then go for it.
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    these guys are telling the truth. It is a very reliable entry level smartphone (before rooted). You can make it even better though, I rooted mine successfully and now considering installing android 2.2 on it!



    Sent from my Eris using DroidForums App
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    Honestly, I HATE MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    But, Yes, it IS a Good phone. For the Most part, it's just SLOW...
    Sometimes it'll pop up a program Instantly, the next time, It sits there thinking wether it wants to do it or not, then decides OK, and pops it up for me.
    But man, when it's slow, It's friggin SLOW... I compared Alchemy on my Eris to my Sisters D2G.. HOLY SMOKES... I compared Opening Forwarded E-Mails, That D2G just blows the Eris away. I know, I know, Newer technology, Better processor, what not. The Eris is just an Entry level. But I HATE It.. And I've gotta deal with it till October 11...

    Oh Ya, Battery Life isn't TOO Bad, it just depends on HOW you use it. And Reception, it's as good as any Cell I've ever used...
    But I do get the "Force Close" Dialog box quite often....
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    I like the Eris because it's small. The other's are too big. The Eris has a curved design which easily fits into your pocket. That was my main reason besides price.

    I've turned off "Background Data" and "Mobile Data" in the settings. I hope this helps. My other concern is using facebook on my home wifi, stepping outside the house, but just because I have facebook still logged in, that the phone when it switches over to Verizon's data service (not sure what it's called) that I'll start using up megabytes and this could make me go over very easily.

    Unless by turning "Mobile Data" off that has been stopped. I really wish they made them wifi only, or at least gave you that option. I may need to resell this phone, it's starting to seem like I'm gonna have to worry everyday about going over data, and $30 extra per month just doesn't seem worth it for the minimal non usage outside of wifi.

    I'd feel like I'm giving verizon free money.
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    Don’t give up so fast!

    Get the my Verizon app and put the widget where u can watch it easily.

    Ur settings for mobile data should work. If ur worried, go into each app's settings (facebook, twitter, email, etc) and find the refresh intervals. U can set them to never, then manually refresh when u have ur wifi on.

    Sent from my nonsensikal froyo using DroidForums App
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    Ok, I will do that. I was also told at verizon that you are charged data, even when the phone is just on, but not in use.

    So if I'm not in wifi. I would assume I'm being charged data. Does anyone know how much "idle data" the phone roughly uses? Assuming you aren't using internet features, games,etc. And you have "mobile data", "background data" turned off.

    Right now I don't have it activated.
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    I think ur settings r good but what u should do is talk directly to a vzw tech support rep. Not a sales rep. They will know what's up w all this.

    Also, i searched "data usage" in the market and there r several good apps to help keep u in budget.

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    Sounds like you need to factory reset, root, or both.
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    I've factory reset my first 2 before, but it didn't seem to help any.
    This phone is only about a week old, still acts like my other 2, so I'm assuming it's an Eris thing..
    I've contemplated rooting, but I'm not brave enough to. LOL...
    But, I think once I'm out of warrenty, I'll seriously concider it... or when I get me a real droid, and transfer this one to another line, I'll mess with it..
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    Personally, the droid eris is a lot better then the motorola devour (i had orginally), it didn't turn off every time i set the phone down. But like other people have already said, the phone is slow initially. But i have completely changed that in the past 2 months. First, root the phone (yes it voids the warranty, but you can always flash the stock rom back), then flash froyo 2.2 (personally i use v37-was more stable for me then v38 or v39), then get setcpu and overclock it (most people up here recommend not going higher then 710-performance, but i am at 787 with no issues, battery can last all day with moderate use), also turn off animations, 3D drawer, and don't use live wallpaper and you should be fine,
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    I don't have the Eris but I can tell you that you can stay below the
    150MB limit monthly. Stay off the internet and only download what
    you just have to have. I shepard my phone all month, as I cannot
    afford a bigger plan, and wait to the last day to make any changes
    and avoid any overages. I will eventually update, though. I also
    believe you can use WIFI to avoid data usage, I don't know the
    particulars on it but I do believe it can be done. If not, then my
    bad. Good luck with your phone, I elected to get a reconditioned
    Droid and I just love it to death, it's the 1st phone I have actually
    enjoyed owning.
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    if you do consider rooting make sure your phone is fully charged and on AC power or you will brick your phone! I have researched over and over again and the only way you ruin your phone is when you swiping out roms and your battery dies!



    Sent from my Eris using DroidForums App
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    By default, it should pull emails, calenders, contacts, weather, and anything else you have set up every 15 minutes.
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    Dont waste your time and money on the Eris. It was outdated the moment it was released. HTC was simply trying to dump very very old chipsets. Everyone I know who owns the Eris is regretting it now. Its basically a ridiculously slow POS.
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    That's great advice, except he already bought it. I would have bought it for $90 too, and after I was done trade it back and get the $130 from Verizon. Once you get rid of the bloat and over clock it, it chugs along surprisingly well.

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