3G network shuts down at 11:00 pm

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Well a decent way to check your signal quality is to download the speedtest app and it will tell you your latency and download/upload speed, which is a relative indicator of your network link quality.

Here in (south edge of) parma ohio i manage ~65 Kb down, 80 up at best. Over in the more densely populated lakewood i will get twice those speeds most of the day, and off peak speeds will closely match the theoretical ev-do A peak about 75% of the time (about 240-265 Kb down, maybe 200 up)

Also a latency over 200 ms is a pretty bad sign unless your area is very congested most of the day.

Edit: i dont care what cell network techs consider good or best,

-55 dBm is very awesome coverage, usually gives (me) between 120 and 80 millisecond latency in theoretical tests. Great download speeds in a heavily covered area, can stream most if not all videos with no rebuffering
-70 is decent, does limit speed
-85 and you will notice much slower downloads and browsing
-90 and below and you will try to break your phone in anger.

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Quick exercise in mathematics. On a GOOD day I get -83dBm, and about 1,000 feet from the tower I get -60. Every -3dBm improvement is roughly a doubling of the signal strength, so -83, being 23 dBm lower than -60, is... 23/3 = 7.666666 etc. We'll run with just the 7. 2x2x2x2x2x2x2 = 128x less signal strength.

That's how weak my signal is here on a good day -- and we can x2x2x2 for the 9dBm different between my good day and -92 which I run on a bad day - so, 512x the signal difference.

Someone check my math if you feel like it, but you can see why -95 is the cutoff -- that's 1024x less signal than 1,000 feet from a tower. :)
 

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Lol ok well I am lost now. I guess I will just let it go cause I am not seeing any lag as far as internet, dloads,youtube videos ext...

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Well what are your download speeds and latency clocking in at?

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Thats interesting, and unbelievably good speeds/latency for your signal strength...

Lucky you!

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I'm guessing low tower-load or just better-designed towers up that way. They'd have to be high-power and darned tough! Of course, is it a CDMA Milestone or a GSM? Lots of variables. ;)

I set mine to KiloBytes instead of Kilobits per second and I topped out at 110.2 with a ping of 360. What's interesting about that is with a ping of 160 I was getting higher uploads than downloads (before I swapped from Kilobits/s) -- 462kbps and 580kbps respectively.
 

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Furbearing that is what i was talking about...

And after doing some light reading i am kinda hard pressed to follow that a signal as weak as -93dBm can hold a 1.2 Mb/s connection over ev-do. Are you perchance on a umts network or hspa+/hsupa?

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The tower I'm pulling in right now was built middle of last year, though, and I have another tower that was built about 7/8 years ago about the same distance away and I can see that one from my roof.
 

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just tested with my phone held up against the window, 90 Kb down, 110 up, 125 ms ping.

3 feet away from the window though, i get maybe half that if lucky. Ping stays relatively the same.

Also i have had a nagging suspicion for years that phone makers/providers code the bar display to sorta lie to you about your signal quality...I really do not consider -85 dBm to be 2 out of 4 bars.

Well, looking at it another way;
-110 is the absulute (or nearly) limit of signal, and -55 is roughly the best you may ever see...(although i have heard that my uncles (now defunct, replaced with droid pro) iphone can get -43 in a very good area on a good day...dont shoot me)

That averages out to -82.5dBm, which mathematically is the half point :/ Look at me proving myself wrong haha! But really you are correct, and -93 is NOT 3 bars. Thus also proving me right, I guess o_O

Dont make me feel bad Ive been awake for almost 28 hours.

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Might have missed this if somebody brought it up sorry but everyday same time no matter what location you are at is a phone issue not network issue. Have you reset phone to factory default.

im not liable :)
 

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This is quite interesting.

I never see above -80dbm and I have no call quality or upload/download issues.
 

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From what I have been told fur is this is a actual droid but since my carrier is not verizon they had to call it a milestone. I guess verizon owns the droid name. So that is the reason I have not had any problems flashing "droid" roms. Fur if u remember a little while ago my buddy messed his phone up well come to find out he flashed a actual milestone rom.

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