Has anyone else received FRG22 OTA?

[JFDroid]

Hi DF community members,

First, I'm wondering if anyone else has received the FRG22 Froyo update to their non-rooted, stock Motorola Droid. This happened to me. If you have, disregard everything I wrote below and let me know in this thread if you received it. I'm under the impression virtually no one has received FRG22 OTA directly from Verizon/Google/Motorola. If this is not the case, please let me know so I can delete this thread which at that point will be pretty useless.

As for the rest of the thread, below is what happened:

About 3 nights ago, on August 4th at approximately 10:35pm, my partner's work phone (he works for VZW) received an OTA update. He was surprised and brought it to show me as it was downloading. I was also surprised, not simply because he was getting an OTA, but because I didn't think there was one that he should be receiving since I had already installed the FRG01B 2.2 Froyo update to that phone the day before (August 3rd) from the link on Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog where they gave instructions on how to install Froyo on a Droid manually for the official update to 2.2 (before it was pulled). I used the download link directly from Google's servers.

This was around or maybe slightly before the time that we seemed to have official confirmation that the FRG01B rollout was being halted for a different version of Froyo (supposedly) to push out at a later, unannounced date.

Back to the phone... it rebooted and when I went to the about phone section, I saw it showed "FRG22" - I was shocked! We had received FRG22 over the air, completely stock and untouched, directly from Google/Verizon seemingly. At the time, and as of right now, I have been under the impression nobody except maybe one other person (according to droid-life) has received this update.

Has this happened to anyone else? I've scoured forums, and I know we have versions of FRG22, but I believe the leaked FRG22 file(s) are all rooted versions that have been messed with at least for root, and maybe some more alterations. Am I right - aren't they all rooted versions for rooted users only?

As proof, here's a picture from my Twitter account to prove my phone is running FRG22: Twitpic - Share photos on Twitter

Also, here's a link to Pete's website (www.peteralfonso.com), and if you go to his downloads page and look at the bottom you'll see it only lists FRG01B from ESE81 as the latest OTA update you can download from his site. Pete being the guy who is usually the most on top of getting the newest OTA's out to the public, I use this as confirmation that we don't have a FRG22 non-rooted, non-messed with, virgin file anywhere on the interwebs, at least not yet. Can anyone confirm that this is correct?

Since my partner's phone received FRG22, is it possible that the update.zip on his phone is in fact the entire FRG22 update, since that's where the update would download to before being installed by the Android OS upon rebooting after the OTA downloaded? Or was there a window/time period I had to catch the update on the SD card before it was moved or deleted automatically by the system during/after OTA installation? I'm thinking when he gets home from work I could just grab the update.zip file from his phone, host it on megaupload or something, and people running non-rooted FRG01B could update to FRG22 safely.

What I'm stuck on is verifying that the update.zip on the card is indeed FRG22. I know that the last update.zip that was put on the root of his SD card was put there by me, it was the FRG01B update that I downloaded from Google's servers and then renamed and put on the SD card to install 2.2 on his Droid coming from ESE81 2.1. How would I verify that the update.zip file on his SD card is the FRG22 update we received? Is there a file I can go into that will show the build version FRG22 or something? I'm not new to Android or Rooting, but this is slightly more advanced than I've done before.

I tried to open the build.prop in a text editor on the Droid, but it just showed random symbols and no readable text (all the characters were things like $%^$@, and some other weird characters).

Any help with this would be appreciated. Also, if someone reads this and knows of an untouched 2.2 FRG22 OTA file somewhere, well, then I guess this whole post is irrelevant and I'd appreciate it if someone would post that so I could delete this thread. Otherwise, I think this thread can be useful and relevant for many non-rooted users who want the FRG22 OTA, virgin update.zip file.

Thanks,

JFDroid/@JFMFT

 

[serveitup911]

I thought the OTA updates were stored on the /cache partition, but I may be wrong. I was under the impression that you had to ADB Pull /cache.

 

[lmapp]

I've got to ask...is the phone is rooted?

 

[JFDroid]

I've got to ask...is the phone is rooted?

No. It's a corporate issued phone paid for and owned by VZW for use only by the VZW employee. He's too afraid to let me root the phone, he thinks his manager is going to care about that. The phone's never been rooted and he's had it since the end of November last year and has accepted every single OTA update that has come his way since he's had the phone, with the exception of FRG01B, which was the only OTA update that has manually been installed to his phone (by me). Still, it was the unrooted, untouched, virgin, 100% clean OTA update directly from Google's servers.

Again, it hasn't been rooted ever.

 

[JFDroid]

Pete just Tweeted me and confirmed to his knowledge that a virgin, untouched FRG22 OTA doesn't seem to exist yet... so maybe if someone can help me verify/find the FRG22 OTA that downloaded to my partner's phone, I can get this file out to others who want it!

 

[Bear in NM]

JF,

As far as I know, the only FRF22 available to the masses right now is the one P3Droid posted (link in News). I have been running (rooted obviously) it off and on since it came out, and have decided to try and stick with it.

As to snagging it off your partners phone, not likley. On the past OTA's, to catch the temp file that is created (and removed after install) you have to turn the phone off between the steps to download and install. Probably the case here.

Your partners phone, being a corporate owned phone by a VZW employee is the one place where I would have expected to see it OTA first. I am sure you are aware of the general VZW roll-out methodology. In the case of this phone it could be a limited roll-out to the few folks who will be the least likley to try and snag the copy, or folks who can be used to beta test. Namely a VZW employee. It would be interesting to know if you have any knowledge of whether this phone got the other OTA's in the early "waves" or whether this person was ever told "expect to see upgrades that the masses do not yet have, we need you to beta for us".

Craig

 

[lmapp]

Didn't notice that you stated non-root on first read. My bad.

Very interesting. I've tried Pete's '22 and it was a little buggy on my phone. '01 works fine for me. I assumed that '22 was just his tweaked '01.

 

[hookbill]

Pete just Tweeted me and confirmed to his knowledge that a virgin, untouched FRG22 OTA doesn't seem to exist yet... so maybe if someone can help me verify/find the FRG22 OTA that downloaded to my partner's phone, I can get this file out to others who want it!

Well, this sounds rather interesting. I think we are going to have some news about updates later this afternoon.

As far as getting FRG22, no it's just not happening. They never put that update out there.

Have you been in a Verizon store recently for anything with your Droid?

 

[Snoking]

My cut on this is that it was on the list for an early push of FRG01B and when the system saw that it was already on 01B it went ahead and did the follow on FRG22 update that others have reported. Which would also then indicate that others that did the manual upgrade will get FRG22 (or what every is the next patch) when their number comes up. Appears to be GOOD NEWS!

Chris

 

[JFDroid]

JF,

As far as I know, the only FRF22 available to the masses right now is the one P3Droid posted (link in News). I have been running (rooted obviously) it off and on since it came out, and have decided to try and stick with it.

As to snagging it off your partners phone, not likley. On the past OTA's, to catch the temp file that is created (and removed after install) you have to turn the phone off between the steps to download and install. Probably the case here.

Your partners phone, being a corporate owned phone by a VZW employee is the one place where I would have expected to see it OTA first. I am sure you are aware of the general VZW roll-out methodology. In the case of this phone it could be a limited roll-out to the few folks who will be the least likley to try and snag the copy, or folks who can be used to beta test. Namely a VZW employee. It would be interesting to know if you have any knowledge of whether this phone got the other OTA's in the early "waves" or whether this person was ever told "expect to see upgrades that the masses do not yet have, we need you to beta for us".

Craig

Before my X, I had an original Motorola Droid. Mine was always rooted, up to date, etc. I remember almost every OTA, he got his in the middle/late stages of the rollout, which I thought was 'normal' (since mine never really got OTA's - I was always running Bugless Beast). I can't remember a time, other than this FRG22 OTA he received, where he got the OTA in the first few days. It was always after 4-5 days of the OTA being pushed out.

He's just a Senior Rep at a retail store, so not like a manager or anything at this point, and the phone he received it on is the same as any other VZW employee's phone. All VZW employees get corporate issued phones, managers usually get Blackberrys because they're better at group texting which is a big part of a store/assistant manager's job. So that's why he has a Droid... also, because him having one, he can show it to customers for an easier sale. Easier to convince people to buy something if the rep. showing them the phone uses it himself.

Well, it sounds like there may not be a way for me to get this file out to other people. I am kind of saddened by that... from what I know, Droid-Life said there was only one other person they heard from before me that had received FRG22 over the air.

For future knowledge, what's the procedure for grabbing an OTA file before it "disappears"? Do I pull the battery after the phone reboots, right before the OTA would install in the recovery menu/mode? Where would the file be located at that point?

 

[JFDroid]

Pete just Tweeted me and confirmed to his knowledge that a virgin, untouched FRG22 OTA doesn't seem to exist yet... so maybe if someone can help me verify/find the FRG22 OTA that downloaded to my partner's phone, I can get this file out to others who want it!

Well, this sounds rather interesting. I think we are going to have some news about updates later this afternoon.

As far as getting FRG22, no it's just not happening. They never put that update out there.

Have you been in a Verizon store recently for anything with your Droid?

No, I can't go into VZW stores or my Droid. 1) I have a Droid X, 2) I'm on a VZW employee account, and VZW employees are not allowed to access each other's accounts. Any troubleshooting or help or purchases for anything on the account I'm on must be made either through *611 (employee phone team instead of customer care when dialed from my phone) or via the vzw website. They push self-serve options on employee account customers... regardless of how savvy the customer is who is on the employee account. Lucky for me, I'm good with technology.

Second, what do you mean they never put FRG22 out there? I received it. We know they pushed it to at least one person. However, this all seems moot at this point since it sounds like since I did not catch the update during the install process, it was automatically deleted and there's no way to fetch it now. Sad, imo.

 

[JFDroid]

My cut on this is that it was on the list for an early push of FRG01B and when the system saw that it was already on 01B it went ahead and did the follow on FRG22 update that others have reported. Which would also then indicate that others that did the manual upgrade will get FRG22 (or what every is the next patch) when their number comes up. Appears to be GOOD NEWS!

Chris

I thought this too. I really think it has little to do with the fact that it's an employee phone. You should see some of his co-workers that do the EXACT same job he does. They have Droids and don't know what the marketplace is, how a widget works, or that the phone even has a browser. These are full-time sales reps. Based on that, I'd say it would be silly for Verizon to assume their employees are all savvy enough to be part of some sort of pre-OTA testing group.

Sounds like his account was one of very few that were targeted to receive an OTA update, and since his phone was already on FRG01B, that FRG22 was pushed instead, maybe by mistake? Not sure at all, but it's a good theory.

 

[Bear in NM]

JF,


Craig

Before my X, I had an original Motorola Droid. Mine was always rooted, up to date, etc. I remember almost every OTA, he got his in the middle/late stages of the rollout, which I thought was 'normal' (since mine never really got OTA's - I was always running Bugless Beast). I can't remember a time, other than this FRG22 OTA he received, where he got the OTA in the first few days. It was always after 4-5 days of the OTA being pushed out.

He's just a Senior Rep at a retail store, so not like a manager or anything at this point, and the phone he received it on is the same as any other VZW employee's phone. All VZW employees get corporate issued phones, managers usually get Blackberrys because they're better at group texting which is a big part of a store/assistant manager's job. So that's why he has a Droid... also, because him having one, he can show it to customers for an easier sale. Easier to convince people to buy something if the rep. showing them the phone uses it himself.

Well, it sounds like there may not be a way for me to get this file out to other people. I am kind of saddened by that... from what I know, Droid-Life said there was only one other person they heard from before me that had received FRG22 over the air.

For future knowledge, what's the procedure for grabbing an OTA file before it "disappears"? Do I pull the battery after the phone reboots, right before the OTA would install in the recovery menu/mode? Where would the file be located at that point?

That is interesting to me. I had always thought that VZW folks might get a higher priority on the update list, perhaps as a perk, possibly as a part of the testing pool to folks who cannot complain, and certainly to ensure the store folks can help customers with questions. Just goes to show. And for the record, my location/priority is such that I have weeks when an OTA rools out to make decisions:icon_eek:

I am a little rusty on the process to snag the file, it is certainly contained in one of the several hundred page threads on the 2.0.1 update or 2.1. But I think the process did not involve trying to get the file from the phone but getting the link to the google server for someone to go and grab it.

Craig

 

[lmapp]

I'm not at all familiar with Android naming conventions, but is FRG22 a name that Android came up with, or did Pete invent it?

If the name FRG22 is purely a product of P3, then somebody has really gotten creative with your roomy's phone.

 

[SEGA]

So this Article is still just a rumor?