[Breaking]Verizon Plans to Slow Downloads of High Data Users Because of iPhone Launch

[wingdo]

Unlimited means UNLIMITED!!!!... W.T.F??

Yes and they are not changing your contract at all. You won't get throttled. This is for NEW customers signing NEW contracts. So you have your UNLIMITED just as you always have.

 

[kptphalkon]

I must have been reading the wrong list last night.

: scratches head :

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[wingdo]

Unlimited means UNLIMITED!!!!... W.T.F??

Gah I hate not being able to edit in here.

Just a question for you. One of my co-workers is on Sprint (stupid EVO 4G). He uses PDAnet for his laptop internet connection so he could dump UVerse, saving him $70 a month in ISP charges. Do you truly believe this is what Sprint had in mind for his smartphone? Do you not think this *may* just *perhaps* be abusing his unlimited data plan?

 

[kptphalkon]

Who cares, its Sprint

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[UNC]

Unlimited means UNLIMITED!!!!... W.T.F??

Gah I hate not being able to edit in here.

Just a question for you. One of my co-workers is on Sprint (stupid EVO 4G). He uses PDAnet for his laptop internet connection so he could dump UVerse, saving him $70 a month in ISP charges. Do you truly believe this is what Sprint had in mind for his smartphone? Do you not think this *may* just *perhaps* be abusing his unlimited data plan?

Abuse. But if you pay the extra $$$ for tethering, I don't have a problem with it. (Which obviously he's not if he's using PDAnet...)

I will pay VZW extra for legit tethering on LTE since the speed is good enough to replace my home network.

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[kodiak799]

I will pay VZW extra for legit tethering on LTE since the speed is good enough to replace my home network.

Great idea, thinking the same myself, but you can't really replace home broadband with a 2gig cap on tethering plans.

 

[kodiak799]

Yes and they are not changing your contract at all. You won't get throttled. This is for NEW customers signing NEW contracts. So you have your UNLIMITED just as you always have.

Of course, we don't know if we'll be grandfathered when we sign that new 1-yr or 2-yr contract. Maybe the press release doesn't indicate that, but in my experience you always have to read the fine print!

 

[eewny]

Android phones are computers, if you don't think so look up the comparison from android and linux online. The unlimited part yes that was def a selling point I asked numerous times about if it was unlimited or if there was a secret cap. They kept saying.unlimited.

The 3g service and towers on verizon are the same for their laptop aircards. While they have a 5 gb limit if they actually used that then it wouldn't be much different then the average "abuser" of android phones. That was marketed even more as a network computer plan. If they did large downloads or streaming they would be abusers too right even though both sides knew it was for a pc. Clearwire and time Warner are offering cable internet wireless packages that are the same technology as sprints 4g. Road runner wireless I believe its called. It might lease out sprints towers or have its own I don't know hut that is an offshoot of the cable internet you use at home and people will likely use it for xbox and download le netflix all while traveling. If any of those services fail to provide a quality experience you immediately blame another customer rather then the company that sold it to you? So time Warner and clearwire can sell you a service with no fear that you might get mad at them if its ****ty. Verizon us apperently being let off the hook.


If you get off your plane at the airport and pick up a rental car. If they don't have any to give you do out go yell at the person who's driving the last one off the lot or do out ***** at the company that sold you something they coudnt deliver.


You can have your opinion on certain data users but I just don't see how you can't get equally or more upset at vzw for being the repsonsible party that sold the service. Everything thing heavy data users are doing was never listed as a limitation on service Verizon never told people they couldn't use it that much. This is of course not including tethering or the phone acting as a server or any copyright breaking bit torrent might have. Every other high gb use of the droid is completely allowed by vzw.

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[kodiak799]

Android phones are computers

Phone are NOT computers, a poor substitute, at best for many things computers do very well.

Smartphones are meant to provide mobile data access. They are not yet a substitute for a PC or home broadband, and weren't intended as such. They're intended to respond to an email while out and about, get directions, look up a restaurant, etc...NOT to watch youtube videos while you're sitting on the can or stream Pandora bedside while a perfectly good stereo next to it collects dust.

Sure, for whatever reason people have ditched home broadband and shelved the laptop with the 15" screen to browse the web and watch videos on their tiny phone, but it's pretty ridiculous to claim that is the intended or even a rational use.

 

[Madcatzfight]

Clearwire and time Warner are offering cable internet wireless packages that are the same technology as sprints 4g. Road runner wireless I believe its called. It might lease out sprints towers or have its own I don't know

Sprints 4g is Clearwire.

 

[kodiak799]

While they have a 5 gb limit if they actually used that then it wouldn't be much different then the average "abuser" of android phones. That was marketed even more as a network computer plan.

The only thing you're missing is that it's $50 (was $60) for 5gigs mobile broadband data and $80 for 10gigs, or even $20 for 2gigs of tethering That tells you everything you need to know about expectations of intended use for unlimited smartphone plans of $30. It's an advertising gimmick, they didn't think anyone could or would want to actually go over 5 gigs on a tiny phone screen, but then they probably didn't think people would d/l torrents over a crawling 3G speed or root and then tether.

I did a little experiment today and tether for about an hour and a half doing some moderate browsing and burned thru maybe 40-50 megs. I figure if I really worked at it with some music and video streaming I could hit 10gigs in a month. Of course all bets are off when you start illegally d/ling a 2gig+ or whatever movie via torrent.

At worst they miscalculated, and so they are changing their plans going forward. What's so criminal or evil about that?

 

[eewny]

Android phone run a version of linux. Its the same base kernel. It has a cpu ram monitor screen. It boots into operating system when you turn it on. It views web pages, views and edits office documents, views flash video and pdfs, it loads files from ftps and streams video from multiple sources(netflix slingbox vcast). And all of these programs are on the android market whose primary user is android devices on cell networks.

So it does a large portion of the functions of a pc except its not a pc because it also makes calls.

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[kodiak799]

So it does a large portion of the functions of a pc except its not a pc because it also makes calls.

And a golfcart will get me from point A to point B without using my legs but that doesn't make it an automobile and doesn't mean it should be on the highway.

 

[bart2546]

That's the whole point in my opinion. Their wireless cards were meant for computers which consume heavy data so they put a cap on how much could be used.

When people start using their PHONE like a computer they won't have a choice but to cap it. The data for phones was meant for internet browsing and extra communication. It wasn't meant for downloading songs and movies via peer to peer programs and playing MMO games.

I'm not saying I like having a cap but I can see why they will do it. Someone always has to ruin it for others and if Verizon didn't cap data, they'd have to regulate the apps. Which so far it doesn't seem like they want to do that. Pick your poison.

Regards,
Brandon
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[eewny]

Madcarz. Thanks I though it was on sprints network but I couldn't be sure. So people use a ton of data on clearwire and bog down sprints 4g for their phone customers. The clearwire people are using it like a normal pc and yet if this were to happen the sprint phone people should be in the same situation as we are talking about with verizons service.

If your getting mad at our use then sprint evo users should get mad at clearwite pc users if their network is slow and that's crazy.
Its the company that sold the service they should be responsible for delivering or planning correctly.

Its this attitude of not holding internet providers responsible that is partly why our broadband is behind other countries.

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