Verizon LTE Phone Release Dates?

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  1. rybnik

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    By hardware becoming a commodity do you mean, all the phones having almost the same specs, it just comes down to the quality of the parts, or what?
    Like say a Vizio LCD TV vs a Samsung LCD TV?
     
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    More or less, and I don't expect quality of parts to be a huge deal. And not to say that some won't try to differentiate on specs, but like the 12MP camera at some point it becomes overkill and there's no real value to the consumer.

    When I say "commodity" I mean there's not really any hardware you can add or upgrade that will enable you to charge much of a premium (in PC's, at least, tech drives prices down and you have upgrades to maintain price but most new boxes are all getting the same upgrades). Heck, I'm waiting for a streamlined mfring process where cell phones made-to-order becomes the norm.

    It's all going to play out like the PC industry in part because in a year or two the cell is going to be a serious competitor to netbooks/tablets/laptop's/desktops. For what it's worth, nearly all the margin in the PC business goes to just the OS and processor - the profits on putting the box together are blechhh. So when people say the PC is a commodity they mean margins for assembling the box are razor thin.
     
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    Ah..But in the PC industry, there aren't really contract costs built in. People pay the full price for the device and that is it. Cell phones are almost all subsidized purchases, although I don't know how much the carriers pay the actual manufacturers, what I do know is that we, consumers are paying WAY more than we would if we were just buying PCs....I don't really see that changing. The carriers will figure out some way of stringing along the consumers, just as they do now...After all, processors and form factor and (some ) other hardware features keep coming along..albeit, slowly.
     
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    How is the Atrix Better then the Droid? Because it has a Docking Station to A notebook? Please do not say the 1G Ram? 5mp Camera? What is it that make it Better? AT&T lol Please?
     
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    Yeah, actually. That docking feature is quite a big deal..it is really not that far fetched to say that you could replace a low-medium power netbook with your cell phone..I think that is a fairly powerful idea....Also, as someone else pointed out, the number of megapixels a camera has is kind of moot when we are in the 5-8 range already...Other factors take over in importance like lens quality, for instance...This is less important but also the fact that the phone is slightly smaller but utilizes the same screen resolution means that the picture quality will appear slightly cleaner on the Atrix as well.

    Really the only thing I don't like about the Atrix is that it is on AT&T and really we all know why. Verizon gave up the opportunity to have all the best Android phones so they could have a piece of the fruit. That was the price they paid. The Bionic is a bit of a consolation prize...but don't kid yourself, it is second best..Just look at all the CES best of cell phone awards, it is pretty much agreed that the Atrix takes the cake.
     
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    Well Verizon said early Q2 for the Droid Bionic. The second quarter is April to June, so early Q2 would most likely be April.

    Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk
     
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    I'd say verizon is going to give it at least a month or more after their big release feb 10th. so i would say end of march we should start seeing 4g phones.
     
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    Maybe....Depends on when their LTE handset service truly is ready to launch. Obviously data is up and running but heard voice could be a while, although voice will go over 3G no big deal.

    But VZW won't wait any longer than they have to for LTE handsets. They need and want to show ROI to investors. Really, after 2 weeks the big crush for IPhone sales will be over. They've got a week for existing customers and then that gives them a week for external. Plus, a lot of that will be done by Apple through its own stores. Only thing is number porting which shouldn't affect LTE all that much, at least initially.

    I'll bet the Thunderbolt is out no later than the 1st week in March. The way I see it, they have 5 devices, plus the IP5 (presumably), so that's 6 phones to launch over 5-6 months, so that would imply about 4 weeks between each device. VZW is really not in the business of selling phones, and the only reason they'd delay launches is strictly because of operational challenges and maybe if the mfrs each want to be showcased for a bit, although I'd think a mfr would want their phone on sale as soon as it's ready to ship.
     
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    I agree. How is the Atrix better than the Bionic again? I understand that one has 1GB RAM while the other only has 512MB, but we now know this is likely because of the docking capability, which I don't understand why that's such a big deal to everyone. The Bionic ties or beats the Atrix in most other specs and being on Verizon instead of ATT alone is worth its weight in gold. The Bionic also has modified MotoBlur while the Atrix has regular, and the Bionic has a bigger screen and better camera. Why do you need to dock your phone to your computer (besides getting to use a full-size physical keyboard)? I thought we wanted a powerful handheld device so we didn't have to carry around a laptop. Or else we would use the power of the laptop instead of the phone when we could. Can someone please explain what makes the docking feature of the Atrix so cool? I bet most people would never even use it.
     
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    I know we all hate the contract changes VZW is making, like no more NE2. But limiting the return policy to 14 days (down from 30 days) helps them release phones quicker. I think one of the main reasons for spacing phones 6+ weeks apart was to prevent early buyers from using the return policy for one cheap upgrade on Verizon's dime. Now they can release phones every 4 weeks (or less) without worrying about that.
     
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