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Seriously, who would buy a Blackberry?

Discussion in 'Android General Discussions' started by qoncept, Dec 23, 2009.

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    After switching from my previous Blackberry Curve to the Droid, I can't imagine why anyone would get any Blackberry anymore, unless it's issued by work. I understand the great Exchange support in Blackberry, so it has it's market, but it's certainly not anyone else.

    There experience isn't even close. Blackberry can't touch Android on quality apps (especially free), the hardware is slow, the browser is garbage, and the experience just isn't anywhere near as good. About the only thing I miss about my Curve is the keyboard, which was a lot better.
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    Considering that RIM has a greater overall market share than even the iPhone, I think they are doing pretty well for themselves. I had a Curve before the Droid and although it is by no means a multimedia device, it just works as a phone. I can't knock a BlackBerry.
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    Ive owned a number of blackberries prior to the Droid, and the only thing I miss from the BB is the keyboard. I had the Tour and I loved the keyboard. Other than that ill take Android OS over BB OS any day of the week.
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    personally, i never understood the market presence of personal use BB devices in a non corporate envrionment, short of users who have used them at their job and would like one for personal use.

    i've found them unfriendly, difficult to maneuver and ugly overall.

    with that said, some corporations basically force people into using BBs as part of their job. similar to MS products.s
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    Corporate. As of today they are more secure, manageable and the lack of features causes less support issues. Alos, the sheer number of BES installations and the cost will keep corps rfom making the jump until there are security features in Android simiar to the BB.

    There should reall be a backend app and an android called "corporate" which allows corporations to set policies on the devices, remote wipe/kill, etc. all from a single interface... like BES.
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    640k basically said what I feel. The Curve was my first smart phone and I was much more happy with it than I expected, but the Droid, for personal use, is just leaps and bounds more pleasant to use.

    The Droid is my personal phone but work is the reason I wanted a smart phone to begin with. Work quit handing out Blackberrys because of the economy right around the time I was hired, but I really wanted a calendar. I thought for a while about buying a PDA (I'd been a free-with-contract phone guy until my Curve) but this just made so much more sense.
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    I bet there has been an influx in BB sales to the average consumer and a drop in the "corporate" consumer. For almost a year now Blackberry's have had deal after deal, some free, some half off, and it has been non-stop since a little after January. (and on every carrier)

    Blackberry really dropped the ball this past year. They had an opportunity to seize the cell industry by the throat by rivaling anything Apple or Android came out with and they failed. Like I said in a previous post, it is very disappointing because Blackberry has always had a solid product line. It may be a bigger failure than the Windows Mobile genre of phones because WinMobile lost out for being complacent and arrogant for years...Blackberry knew what they had to do and they still came up extremely short.
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    Just upgraded my wife from the 8330 to the 8530. She likes blackberry and Im not one to argue with her. It makes her happy, you shouldnt force your opinion onto others.
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    My best friend's gf just went from a MyTouch 3G to a Blackberry... Stupidest thing I've ever heard of. She's incredibly happy with it, which just blows my mind, considering I've owned or used quite a few Blackberry's and I'd never go back. Hell, I'd go back to my Pre before I went to another Blackberry! She doesn't understand how gimped of a phone they actually are, especially from the web browser perspective.
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    I just hope that Blackberry is strong enough to stay in business in these days.... I do not want them to become like Palm.

    To stay in business, they need to cater to everyone and not just in corporate.
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    This is a misconception IMO. When you try to cater to everyone, things become too fragmented. They need to do what they do, and be the best at it. And, for the most part they are.

    The corporate market will always be a huge area for them. They also attract comsumers who want things a little more simple.

    I think the Android OS is catering to a much younger crowd for the most part. I happen to be a mid 30s business user (and personal) and I would NEVER go back to BB, but I understand I am a part of a small group in the grand scheme of things.

    Smartphones themselves are growing exponentially, but keep in mind that while Android is growing at a fast rate as well, there are a lot of dumb phone converts too. It'ss not like every (or even most) Android user came from a BB.

    RIM will be fine. They have some nice things coming in the future and they are, for the most part, a very well run company.
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    Actually, I'd say to stay in business, it's probably RIM's best bet to cut their losses in the personal sector and concentrate on corporate. It's what they know.

    Edit: Brian beat me to it. But I think you're mistaken about the age of users. Check out this poll. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-polls/9365-whats-your-age.html Hardly scientific of course, but it surprised the hell out of me.
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    My boyfriend bought a BB just after I got the Droid. He continually plays with my Droid over his BB as 1/2 the time, he can't get a signal nor the download/web speed that I get even off the 3G (he has ATT... so much for the TV ads.... go figure!)...

    While he doesn't want to give up the BB, because of work, he's realizing more and more how inferior his is compared to the Droid... *shrug* Live and learn!
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    Heh Heh You're right. But you may be surprised at how many of us "older" people are buying a Droid. Take a look here.
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    Isn't the latest network outage like the 3rd in the past 30 days? I'm so happy I switched to Android. Not only was the Storm a shoddy device but I was annoyed with all the network outages.
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    BlackBerry has its highlights. It is a great messaging device for IM, eMail, text, etc... I believe that RIM is not concerned with making the best normal consumer device, more so making a great business device that will also work to satisfy the needs of a personal device as well. I do not think that they will ever become the company that is great at both. However RIM is working on giving their devices a better browser and even working on giving a better UI for the customer to use. I think that we will start to see the fruits of their efforts in the upcoming year. But BlackBerry will always remain a BlackBerry at its core.

    Android on the other hand has taken a different approach by going after the normal consumer, with some business flavoring in it. Hence the built in exchange support in Android 2.0. I believe that Android will find a happy medium in both. Google is innovative and it shows. It really amazes me how far Android has come in the short time it has been available. Now they have grown beyond basically a single carrier support we should see even a further expansion of Android capability. At a even more accelerated rate. But this is just my personal opinion. So we will see in time
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    imo, the LACK of customization is doing well for blackberries - business users find a familiar interface, etc

    plus, it just works. Email support is MILES higher than droid imo - i have dropouts, my notifications keep coming on even when i read all the messages, it takes forever to get an email or they come in bunches of 10, etc

    the email accounts on blackberry is so much better.

    IMO - 2 different markets.
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    That age survey is definitley a surprise to me. I figured it would be more like 50-50% in the 20-29 range. Just goes to show you what is does to assume.
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    For those who pretend Blackberry did not drop the ball, stop being so naive. They had the potential to be the #1 cellular brand on the market, bar-none. Don't give me the excuse, "well they should stick to the corporate consumer." They had an opportunity to not only cater to the corporate consumer but to make one of the top all-in-one phones, period, with their expertise in business/corporate/communication related apps and software and had the potential to make a device capable of internet, multimedia and much more. Can you explain to me why a corporate consumer would reject the idea of a better all in one device? If anything they were ahead of the game when it comes to producing phones compared to any other company. They had a business/corporate/communication related segment of phone software and apps that was almost up to perfection.

    You people make it seem like it would be impossible for RIM/BB to produce a phone with both aspects covered. It is a phone, all it takes it correct pre-production planning and quality and they would be all set. Instead they came out with a laggy OS on the Storm and a browser experience that was an embarrassment.

    It's like saying, well instead of winning a championship..we decided to ignore one aspect of our game and pretend ignorance.

    Blackberry had a chance to make the greatest all in one device, PERIOD. And they failed...

    Also, how can you say they are catering to the corporate consumer when they are clearly targeting everyone else besides it in their ads when they give away free and 1/2 off phones...and this has been going on for about a year now on all carriers.

    Blackberry still has potential down the line to come out with a device that blows the lid off most others, but with all the sales and buyouts rumors I guess they'd rather become complacent and not go for the kill-shot.
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    The subject of RIM is a sore spot for me.

    right before the Storm release (or maybe it was shortly after?) Balsillie makes the assanine comment that "buggy" software is the new reality. Well that would explain the Storms launch but not the shoddy hardware.

    So that didn't sit right at all with me. Even though I didn't own the Storm I was a longtime BB user and I was supporting the company. The QC was definitely on the decline but then his comments and then the Storms launch almost pushed me over the edge, as far as dropping the product.

    Then news came out about the Tour. Looked good to me. Figured I'd pick it up. I mean RIM already went through the mess with the Storm they certainly wouldn't release another device with a ton of hardware problems. Not a chance.....the company would get it right this time around.

    Tours released and the battery door and trackball problems flood the web. Even though mine was good that was the last straw. I even commented on a forum that because of Balsillie and their poor QC my Tour would be my last BB.

    They will never get my money again.

    There is an article about Balsillie in Macleans. It's totally unrelated to RIM but it's about him losing the bid for the Coyotes.

    There is a reason he didn't get the hockey team and it has a lot to do with his reputation.
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