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    Lately my battery has sucked. And I did a FDR with little to know improvement. After 8 hours I'm at 50% SO I got gsam battery monitor. This is what it shows.

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    What is your brightness set at? Also, 6 minutes of screen on time has you at 50% ? Maybe your battery is just going bad.

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    The screen is set to auto brightness and the power saver box is checked. I think jelly bean is the issue cause I was getting 15-20 hours before the update.
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    I think you will have to let Gsam run a bit longer to get any real useful info from it.
    Battery use is very subjective and depends on so many variables. 50% in 8 hours might be very good depending on use.
    Give it a few cycles with Gsam.

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    Ok I will let it run and see if there is anything wrong.
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    I agree with moset. Give gsam some time to make more accurate readings.

    In regards to auto brightness and battery saver, that is the best way to go. However, consider the environment that you are in. If you are in a brightly lit room all the time and/or outside in the sun, then brightness is going to default to the higher levels and still use a lot of battery. As an alternative, you can change from auto brightness to around a 30% setting and leave the battery saver box checked. It will work great for overall indoor use but not outside in the sun.

    Also, look in your widgets for the Motorola power control widget. It lets you cycle through the screen brightness settings without having to go into settings. I use it whenever I go outside to set my screen to max brightness and then back to auto when I go inside. Works great and saves lots of steps.

    Finally, Consider other things running in the background that consume lots of battery such as facebook, any app that syncs or uploads photos, weather apps that constantly update and the gmail widget (not the app). All of those especially the gmail widget proved to be huge battery hogs on my phone.

    You may also want to consider leaving wifi on all the time. For me it seems like my battery life is actually better when I leave wifi on.

    David
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    I also leave my wifi on. As for widgets the only one I have on my home screen is the rings digital widget. Iv been using it ever since the circles theme came out. Not sure how long that's been. It does have a built in weather app and I set the auto update to every 120 minutes. I also put the power monitor widget in a home screen like you said to control the screen brightness and other things.
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    I'm not totally convinced yet but, the last couple of days I've turned off auto brightness. I have old eyes and auto worked well, however most of my use, I find 25% sufficient to easily read text.
    I can see a reduction in the battery drain on a % per hour basis while i see little difference in the usability of the display.
    If you tap the screen time listing on Gsam it will list the % of time at different brightness levels. Those numbers don't seem to have changed much, but my average screen battery use is down to around 8%/hr. from about 11#/hr.
    The light sensor must use some battery. I'm leaning to that and whatever cpu time is used to manipulate the brightness is wasting some battery for my use.
    I haven't figured out what the battery saver setting in brightness really does.

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    You have to also look at the "time on" at the different levels. Your largest amount of screen on time (58%) was at the dim setting.

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    I agree with moset and Yellow Jacket here that short spans of time with gsam will not give you useful information. Your best information from gsam by far, is to start with a fully charged battery, and by fully charged, I mean charged to 100% with power OFF. In fact, you will do yourself and the phone some good by first doing a Meter Training;
    • Power the phone off (hold power and select "Power off", then accept).
    • Plug the phone into the STOCK MOTOROLA CHARGER AND CABLE and allow it to boot into Charge Only mode (represented by a large battery icon on the screen).
    • Allow the phone to charge for the greater of 3.5 hours for the Droid RAZR (5.5 hours for the MAXX), or until the display says 100% when you briefly tap one of the volume control buttons. This may take considerably less than the recommended times above depending on what the battery's actual "State of Charge" is (and not what the meter says it is).
    • Once fully charged, remove it from charge and power up normally.
    • Use it as you normally do throughout the day, and continue to run on battery only, until the phone displays the low battery warning and recommends you place it on the charger (10% with Jelly Bean and ICS, 15% with Gingerbread). Whatever you do, DO NOT allow it to discharge to the point where it powers itself off. This can result in the phone becoming completely unresponsive to the charger.
    • Now repeat the charging process with power off. This time, it should take the better part of the 3.5 (or 5.5), hours mentioned above before it gets to the required 100% charge level. If you don't allow it to reach 100% each time, and also to reach the discharge level where charging is recommended through this three-step process, it must be performed again or it will not have the desired effect of setting the full and empty flags for the meter.
    Now that you've completed the Meter Training, when you power up the phone after the second charge cycle, make sure gsam is running and again, use the phone throughout the day as you normally would, allowing the software to capture a good sample. Once you reach the "recharge" warning again, capture screen shots of gsam, and also of the battery stats from the phone and post them here.
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    Ok I will start this tonight.
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    You know it's not just screen on time, but also what color your screen is. If you spend a great deal of time in the people (contacts) app which has a bright white screen as compared to the phone app which has a much darker screen, then the white screen is going to use more battery, but it will still register as just "screen on time". Personally I use a home screen that uses basically black and gray as its primary colors. So even though I may be on my home screen for an extended period of time I am not using much battery juice. Just a thought! :icon_ lala:
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    My home screen is the default droid eye. And my people contact list has a black background.
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    Very pleased with your results. Glad you're enjoying your phone again! :D

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    Fox:can u pls post up the link of ur actual battery train etc for me..iam in need & i cant seem to find it..needa do this stat,my phone hasn't been this bad b4.i use to get 16/18 plus,now im lucky to jst get 8 -_-
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    there right here..



    • Power the phone off (hold power and select "Power off", then accept).
    • Plug the phone into the STOCK [FONT=inherit !important][FONT=inherit !important]MOTOROLA[/FONT][/FONT] CHARGER AND CABLE and allow it to boot into Charge Only mode (represented by a large battery icon on the screen).
    • Allow the phone to charge for the greater of 3.5 hours for the Droid [FONT=inherit !important][FONT=inherit !important]RAZR[/FONT][/FONT] (5.5 hours for the MAXX), or until the display says 100% when you briefly tap one of the volume control buttons. This may take considerably less than the recommended times above depending on what the battery's actual "State of Charge" is (and not what the meter says it is).
    • Once fully charged, remove it from charge and power up normally.
    • Use it as you normally do throughout the day, and continue to run on battery only, until the phone displays the low battery warning and recommends you place it on the charger (10% with Jelly Bean and ICS, 15% with Gingerbread). Whatever you do, DO NOT allow it to discharge to the point where it powers itself off. This can result in the phone becoming completely unresponsive to the charger.
    • Now repeat the charging process with power off. This time, it should take the better part of the 3.5 (or 5.5), hours mentioned above before it gets to the required 100% charge level. If you don't allow it to reach 100% each time, and also to reach the discharge level where charging is recommended through this three-step process, it must be performed again or it will not have the desired effect of setting the full and empty flags for the meter.
    Now that you've completed the Meter Training, when you power up the phone after the second charge cycle, make sure gsam is running and again, use the phone throughout the day as you normally would, allowing the software to capture a good sample. Once you reach the "recharge" warning again, capture screen shots of gsam, and also of the battery stats from the phone and post them here.​




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    Thank youuuu
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    No problem.
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