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No WIFI hotspot fix for rooted GB?

The reason vzw charges for tethering is because a computer pulls bigger data packets than a mobile device. The network is designed for mobile devices, that's why you have mobile versions of webpages. That's also why air cards have such a low data cap, because it isn't designed to handle large amounts of data on a regular basis.

Stealing aside, using the mobile network for something it isn't designed to handle will slow it down for everyone.

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Yeah shows on my vzw app that its 20 either way not something ill pay for and nothing I need I get everything I need or want on my x ;)

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Unlimited Smartphone and BlackBerry Plans and Features
These WirelessEmail plans and features cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, unless you subscribe to Mobile Broadband Connect; or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for use of the Wireless Sync or the BlackBerry solution, unless you subscribe to Mobile BroadbandConnect.

Straight out of the VZW terms on their unlimited data plan. Argue all you want that you get "unlimited data" and it doesnt matter if you use it on your computer, xbox, ps3, ipod etc, states plain as day right there that you are not allowed, by TOS to tether except for the purpose of syncing your device, ie phone or BB. So since that part of the argument is cleared up lets move on to something more constructive and stop acting as if we are not stealing from VZW when we tether, because it is theft of service, and as such if VZW truly wishes to push the matter they can cancel your contract ( and you cant do anything about it) and further more as theft they have the right to prosecute you for such. Luckily they are not doing that as of yet. It may get to that point in the near future if people continue to tether with out paying for it, I cannot say.
 
Oh how im glad to see that Verizon hired alot of tether cops :icon_ banana: the same people who's throwing the stealing card in, most likely tethered before verizon even came out with the tether package. Y'all seriously need to stop ridin Verizon's nuts
Well, I cant speak for anyone but myself...I knew as soon as I rooted my phone and downloaded Wireless Tether for Root Users I was stealing a paid for service...

I also knew that I would not be using it to replace my home Cable Internet connection, regardless of the fact that I pay $180 a month for my cable service...or that I pay in excess of $240 a month for my Cellular Phone Service which includes Unlimited Data on 2 lines.

At best, I intended on using the tether ability about 2 times a month...when I would be away on military duty and away from a dedicated internet connection. Instead, I havent used it in months...whatever I need to do on the internet, I can do quite well on my DX...

The fact is, semantics aside, if you tether without purchasing a tether plan, you are stealing a paid for service...not only breaking your TOS, but also risking criminal charges that can result in fines and possible jail time. Argue the point all you want, but it is clearly described in the fine print of your contract...Unlimited Cellular Data is for a Cellular Device designated as such under the contract and assigned a unique ID number...(likely not in those exact words, but instead in a bunch of "legalese")

And who are you? verizon's lawyer? seriously where was all this before verizon even had a tethering plan? My omnia tethers without a problem, my D1 tethered without a threat at all, but Verizon found this way to make money and jumped on it like a runaway train to Paris. Greed is the root of all evil, not Tethering :P tell that to your verizon rep.

Nope, just someone who actually understands that taking a service that has a cost attached for free is stealing...plain and simple. I dont care if you or anyone else here agrees with me or not...the facts are in my favor, not yours. You dont pay any additional money to tether if all you are paying for is Mobile Data...therefore, if you are tethering without a tether plan, then you are in fact stealing services.

Argue you all you like, but no court in the land will side with you, nor will any attorney worth his salt would even entertain the idea of taking your case in front of a judge...but feel free to give it a shot if you are so adamant that its perfectly ok" to be doing it...:)
 
guys. really. why are you all still arguing here. It is stealing so can we stop going over and over the same basic point.

It is stealing (duh)
It cost too much
Most of us wouldn't use it but a few rare times out of convenience
I plan on doing it when I get my Asus Transformer.

All things aside I torrent, download paid apks, go to LAN parties and share media. and occasionally tether. I am the devil I suppose but I'd venture to say all the do gooder in this thread have done any of this at some point. So just stop trying to defend the $20 a month service and stop trying to defend your stealing ways people on the other side. You guys all sound ridiculous.

(P.S- In retrospect I'm surprised no one quoted the Ten Commandments yet)
 
guys. really. why are you all still arguing here. It is stealing so can we stop going over and over the same basic point.

It is stealing (duh)
It cost too much
Most of us wouldn't use it but a few rare times out of convenience
I plan on doing it when I get my Asus Transformer.

All things aside I torrent, download paid apks, go to LAN parties and share media. and occasionally tether. I am the devil I suppose but I'd venture to say all the do gooder in this thread have done any of this at some point. So just stop trying to defend the $20 a month service and stop trying to defend your stealing ways people on the other side. You guys all sound ridiculous.



(P.S- In retrospect I'm surprised no one quoted the Ten Commandments yet)
Right, and it's said stealing that has brought the heat to the rooting community.
 
None of it is stealing. They knew what they were doing when they gave us unlimited data on an opensource phone. They are trying to limit it, to charge for the extra use, but nothing is illegal or wrong about rooting your phone and tethering it for free. You pay for the unlimited data, you get unlimited data. Do you think VZW pays that much per GB that you use? No. They will be coming out with tiered data plans to limit this so that they can make more money, but those of us who have unlimited now will have unlimited then and it will still be legal. Get your facts straight, ask a VZW rep or manager, they will tell you the same if they know what they are talking about. Just because there is a payed option sponsored by VZW doesn't mean that the free option is illegal. Its just a way for them to make money for the convenience.

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None of it is stealing. They knew what they were doing when they gave us unlimited data on an opensource phone. They are trying to limit it, to charge for the extra use, but nothing is illegal or wrong about rooting your phone and tethering it for free. You pay for the unlimited data, you get unlimited data. Do you think VZW pays that much per GB that you use? No. They will be coming out with tiered data plans to limit this so that they can make more money, but those of us who have unlimited now will have unlimited then and it will still be legal. Get your facts straight, ask a VZW rep or manager, they will tell you the same if they know what they are talking about. Just because there is a payed option sponsored by VZW doesn't mean that the free option is illegal. Its just a way for them to make money for the convenience.

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If you believe it is not illegal in any way shape or form I have a unicorn for sale, its only $150,000, and it will give you 5 wishes to be used anyway you like.

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None of it is stealing. They knew what they were doing when they gave us unlimited data on an opensource phone. They are trying to limit it, to charge for the extra use, but nothing is illegal or wrong about rooting your phone and tethering it for free. You pay for the unlimited data, you get unlimited data. Do you think VZW pays that much per GB that you use? No. They will be coming out with tiered data plans to limit this so that they can make more money, but those of us who have unlimited now will have unlimited then and it will still be legal. Get your facts straight, ask a VZW rep or manager, they will tell you the same if they know what they are talking about. Just because there is a payed option sponsored by VZW doesn't mean that the free option is illegal. Its just a way for them to make money for the convenience.

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If you believe it is not illegal in any way shape or form I have a unicorn for sale, its only $150,000, and it will give you 5 wishes to be used anyway you like.

Running running as fast as it can, running running gingerbread man!

How much for a test drive? ;P
But seriously, Law requires paper, and there is nothing restricting the use of the unlimited data. Simple as that.
I understand that it can seem wrong or illegal, but it is not because nothing says so in the paperwork. All they did was enable you to pay so that you don't have to root and void your warranty for the same thing.
The only instance where I heard about VZW getting seriously upset about it was the last time I went to VZW. I was talking to one of the techs about it, a guy who was pulling over a TB worth of data in webcasts and pushing almost as much. Verizon is about to cancel his service, but they haven't so far because he is doing nothing illegal or against his contract, and in fact the contract is what is protecting him from the involuntary cancellation. So far, only in his case are they losing money, but they enabled him to do it.

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... Carriers still charge for navagation while Google gives it away just like tether. It's not stealing. It is the result of an open market which the carriers choose to participate.

The Crusades are over.
 
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