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What's the best program to move files from one area of the phone to another?

Discussion in 'Motorola Droid Bionic' started by SSHGuru, Sep 12, 2011.

  1. SSHGuru
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    I have a few programs to do this on the phone (Astro) - but I can't find anything on my PC that will let me move stuff around (other than the SD card).
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    SSH,

    I am a little confused by your question. If you are using a Windows machine, then the files will show up using "My Computer". One thing that helped me was to install the latest moto drivers for my PC, and now when I hook the phone up to a USB port and select the mass storage switch on the phone, I do get two drive letters assigned to the phone's SD and SD-ext directories. If you are using a windows PC, and your drivers are good, you should get two USB remote drive tones indicating both sd and sd-ext are mapped properly on the PC.

    Besides astro on your phone, and Root Explorer on my phone, my Bionic came with an application called "files" in the app tray. This basic phone program will let you see files in both sd and sd-ext, and you can move, copy, delete etc.

    Craig
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    Just use Windows Explorer.
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    Windows explorer only see's the SD card. I want something that let's me see everything and move stuff around on my Windows machine. It's too hard to manage with the phone's programs.
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    ssh,

    As far as I know, you will not be able to access anything on the phone other than sd and sd-ext from your desktop. Unkess you are using ADB, but that is not a windows GUI per se.

    Back to what I was describing earlier, natively your PC will/should see the physical sd card (sd-ext) without any problem. In order to see the internal memory (sd) partition on the phone, you will need the proper windows drivers. I got mine updated when I updated my ADB. In essence the internal (sd) is viewed by the PC much like an external camera, your PC needs drivers. Once the drivers are installed, when you plug your phone into your USB Windows Explorer should assign SD and SD-ext unique "new" drive letters, depending upon which of the three "switches" you toggle in the usb connected notification pull-down on the phone.

    Craig
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    I wouldn't even need to access this stuff on my OG Droid. But with the weird way this saves data I need to move stuff around. I still haven't really figured it out.
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    SSH,

    I know you had those problems finding your videos at first, and it did take me a bit to get squared away, but as much as a lot of folks are complaining about the file setup it really is a better deal. Better because the max we will ever see with the external sd card is 32 gig. If moto had gone the old Droid route, then the file system on the phone would be maxed out with system files. While we do not have the full 16 gig on the phone as advertised as "ram", we do have an additional 8 gig that we can use for ourselves, bringing the real potential storage to 40 gigs (less the bit of loss for formatiing etc.) So I am very happy to trade off a little file gyrating for the extra storage. And with the ability to have particlar application data (like Titanium Backups, etc.) happening on the internal SD, it lets me keep my external SD "clean" by only having music, photos and videos.. Basically stuff not needed to run applications, so it would make swapping out the external sd card much easier. You could have a card with music, perhaps one with just videos for yourself or the kids. Much better arrangement, imho. KInda like the capacative buttons on the phone. Different location than the D1, but I will get it programmed into my pea brain, eventually.

    Craig
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    Windows.can access both thw SD card and your internal phone memory. You can try updating your drivers, like the others have said, and it should show up separately in the "my computer" window. So you'll see what look like two usb drives inserted. They may look the same but they are labelled something like drive F and drive G or something similar depending on your computer. At least that's how it shows up with my phone when I plug it in and put it in disc drive mode.

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    I use the script manager. it works well for me. but you have to be rooted to use it. when you open it, go to settings, more, config and browse as root. this will allow you access to every file on your phone.

    long press the file and press copy and then paste it to what ever file you want.
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    Files

    I'm not complaining about the amount of storage at all. just the way they set it up. If you go to the system to move files to the SD it puts them in in the media section which isn't correct.

    I'd like to know where I can put my pictures and videos other than internal memory.

    I imagine that would be sd-ext however I'm not sure if I just need to move the files or directories also.

    Very confusing. Then you have to move them.
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    SSH,

    I like to use the USB Mass Storage setting. This will bring up two drive letters on your PC. One will be sd, the other sd-ext. So far the internal sd gets the first new drive letter, sd-ext gets the second. sd-ext is where I keep my music and pictures. Create folders called "Music" and "Photos" and/or 'Videos". Drag your media to these locations and you should be good to go. I am not 100% on whether the phone will rescan immediately, but certainly a reboot will get you a rescan so the music and photos will show up. One thing stupid about the native gallery is that it will not recognize any directory structure that you may have set up in the photo sub-directory, you have to manually recreate folders in this app. I am using Gallery 3-d from the market which is nothing more than the old gallery application which will create and display photo subdirectories if you set these up when you move your photos to the card.

    And I agree, this new system is very cumbersome at first. But I am guessing having the 4 switch settings is better if you know how to take advantage of syncing, etc.. I am a drag and drop kinda guy:p

    Craig
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    I prefer drag and drop also which is why I'm trying to learn how to do it on the computer. There should be a preference to save media to the sd-ext card automatically so we don't have to do this ourselves. Why cant there be a setting for it? Then issue solved?

    When I get some time I will see about moving the whole folders from SD to SD-ext.

    Thanks,
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    I'm finally getting used to to the file system. It is very confusing that they call the 8Gb internal storage 'sdcard' and the actual external installed 16Gb sdcard 'sdcard-ext'. It is unfortunate because apps like Titanium Backup look for and use 'sdcard' for backups. I haven't been able to figure out how to change the file storage location to the titaniumbackup folder on 'sdcard-ext'. Same problem with backing up LauncherPro settings. I can't get the backup to go to 'sdcard-ext'. I shouldn't have to make those backups and then move them from internal to external. At least the camera saves to the external sdcard.

    What is the purpose of the Settings > Storage > Storage location in the Windows media sync? It defaulted to internal and I changed it to Sdcard from internal, but I don't know what it does.
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    I have pictures both in the SD and SD-Ext for some reason...
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    I looked and have thumbnails but not pics internal and pics and thumbnails on sd-ext. Wierd.
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    You can set the storage location for the camera and videos. Open the camera app, select the menu on the left side, pull to the right. Select the gear Icon. Change storage to sd-ext.

    As to applications that use storage for back-ups, this is going to be a Developer issue. This directory structure appears to be somewhat new, so it will likely be up to the application developers to have to mod their programs to deal with this new "feature". The more robust applications already allow this feature, like PowerAmp (music) that has a toggle and scan feature so you can tell the application where to look.

    I have not tested this yet, but in theory I would expect using the internal location for photos should yield a slightly faster write (capture) time as I think the internal storage should write faster than the card. Note to self, need to test this....

    Craig
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    I use SD-Explorer which you can download free - better than astro.

    I also find that if you look under DCIM in the sd you have full pictures.

    Ever since I set to save to SD it's put the two pics I took in there under DCIM so I may need to get rid of the other directory.
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    Good point about the thumbnails. Near as I can tell, as the native OS does create thumbnails when using gallery apps, and as the programs that create the thumbnails (Gallery Gallery 3-d) will obviously use the internal sd, it "appears" that the picture are in two places. If you use the sd-ext for photos, it will place thumbnails on internal sd. The thumbnail subdirecory is not created on sd-ext when you move pictures and view from sd-ext. My applications that fetch album art do the same thing. Music on the card (sd-ext), thumbnail album art goes to sd.

    Craig
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    help

    I have a galaxy note 2 for almost 2 months and I can not figure how to move documents or photos from a folder to a newly created folder in the internal storage. Is there a way to do this? every time I click on the "move" option it takes me to the external storage.
    Looking forward to your help.
    thanks
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