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Hmmm you go from saying how much you hate haters to being a gather yourself. Nicely done....
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RIM CEO Disses Android Devices, Saying They "are all the same"
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Hmmm you go from saying how much you hate haters to being a gather yourself. Nicely done....
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OneTenderRebel
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by gather I mean hater. What's a brother got to do to get an edit button up in the news section, haha
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Do you know what hater means? Hating a product because you can't use it is one thing...I can't use windows anymore its far too complex. I don't HATE it but I really dislike it.
But hating on a product just because its better than the ones your company is making, that's a different story.
As a CEO I think you should try to win customers by making good products...not bashing others. = hater.
P.s. you can edit. I just did it on my phone.
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Hmm I can't edit. But I just think at this point RIM is desperate and will say anything that may help them. It's really no different than the new Samsung commercials attacking the iPhone and its users.
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Forget Android for a moment...what about those iphones? You want the newest one? There is only one. Same plasticky package, same hardware a generation behind, same UI...just different colors or levels of overpriced memory. RIM isn't barking up enough trees with their insults IMHO...although they know that apple mainly makes lifestyle toys for yuppies and self-styled hipsters, and aren't taken seriously in the I.T. and business/corporate community (at least in my own experience).
RIM should take a clue from apple's past, in fact. Look at where a "closed" platform got apple in the old days. No clones, unlike the IBM-PC, and look at where apple's personal computer market share went--they were the Betamax to IBM's VHS. Now they do the same with their phones, and look at where their market share is going. RIM, too, has a closed platform but its market share isn't shrinking, it's imploding. With the news this past week about IBM throwing its support behind Android for enterprise use, that will be a fairly sharp blow to RIM once companies start switching.
Seems the only ones excited about RIM products these days are those who still own them. Sure, I've had a couple of them claim that Android can't access certain types of servers, and that they have everything in BlackBerry's own messaging/data system, etc., etc....but that's the point right there: it's proprietary.
The only flaw I see in Android's future is that the phones may become nothing more than bland commodity items. Top of the line phone are always the latest/greatest of each manufacturer, but with the OS/GUI being open source and readily available, it paves the way for cheap hardware to gain a decent OS and, if the hardware is too cheap (as in faulty), the phones may become nothing more than throwaways, or be of such poor quality that they drag down the Android name. It is up to manufacturers to keep Android fresh through their own unique GUIs and bundle of apps. Let's hope it stays that way. And that despite how much some of us despise apple, that they too stick around to give everyone some healthy competition.
RIM should take a clue from apple's past, in fact. Look at where a "closed" platform got apple in the old days. No clones, unlike the IBM-PC, and look at where apple's personal computer market share went--they were the Betamax to IBM's VHS. Now they do the same with their phones, and look at where their market share is going. RIM, too, has a closed platform but its market share isn't shrinking, it's imploding. With the news this past week about IBM throwing its support behind Android for enterprise use, that will be a fairly sharp blow to RIM once companies start switching.
Seems the only ones excited about RIM products these days are those who still own them. Sure, I've had a couple of them claim that Android can't access certain types of servers, and that they have everything in BlackBerry's own messaging/data system, etc., etc....but that's the point right there: it's proprietary.
The only flaw I see in Android's future is that the phones may become nothing more than bland commodity items. Top of the line phone are always the latest/greatest of each manufacturer, but with the OS/GUI being open source and readily available, it paves the way for cheap hardware to gain a decent OS and, if the hardware is too cheap (as in faulty), the phones may become nothing more than throwaways, or be of such poor quality that they drag down the Android name. It is up to manufacturers to keep Android fresh through their own unique GUIs and bundle of apps. Let's hope it stays that way. And that despite how much some of us despise apple, that they too stick around to give everyone some healthy competition.
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Yea but Samsung is poking at apple because apple is suing them over dumb things like how to flick your pics in your gallery and the tablets being too round around the corners like the iPad. So Samsung is taking jabs at apple about the 4g thing and people waiting in line.
If anything Samsung is attacking apple customers for waiting in lines for three days for something that Samsung has. Its a war that apple started and that Samsung is playing along with.
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This opinion right here is a perfect example of all that is wrong with Android fanbois.
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Well I guess this puts the "fragmentation vs differentiation" argument to rest at least. 
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The apple patent wars are pretty hilarious. They sue Samsung and others claiming that their actual physical device has physical similarities such as round corners and what not, and Samsung and Motorola response by counter-suing on grounds of ACTUAL infringements down to the technical aspects, as in devices communicating with servers and all That. Shows that they're not petty about those things but if you want to pick a fight, they use their brainpower and go after actual specific technical aspects of it. That's the difference between apple and the more relevant companies such as Google HTC Motorola Samsung etc.
It just pains me when I see these tech giants such as apple competing through the courts, instead of the way of the android backers, through new innovation in design ideas and applications and how those can help make life easier. It's like a dude with a masters from Harvard trying to argue with a elementary school dropout. What's the point you know? I'll stand by the side of the people who choose to create real legitimate competition by trying to 1-up themselves and pushing the limits of technology and innovation, and not the cry baby companies arguing that our devices look too similar to theirs....child please.
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It just pains me when I see these tech giants such as apple competing through the courts, instead of the way of the android backers, through new innovation in design ideas and applications and how those can help make life easier. It's like a dude with a masters from Harvard trying to argue with a elementary school dropout. What's the point you know? I'll stand by the side of the people who choose to create real legitimate competition by trying to 1-up themselves and pushing the limits of technology and innovation, and not the cry baby companies arguing that our devices look too similar to theirs....child please.
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Someone needs to remind him that what matters at the end of the day for share holders is not how nice or unique the device is but how positive their financial statements are...
The problem with RIM is that they gave up on innovation years ago. Any company that would release a TOUCH device still running a trackball OS is obviously not trying very hard. I had the abomination that was the Storm, and it was not a good time.
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My point would be Android needs to stop being obsessed with what Apple is doing, it shows a serious inferiority complex when the mere mention of Apple throws everyone into a frenzy. Let the OEM's fight it out in court, the right decisions will be made. The hatred from some people is just so ugly that it brings the collective Android community down.
Funny you say that. I was moving our corporate blackberries over to a new BES-X instance today, about 11 devices in total. I had 3 or 4 different models, and it was near impossible to tell them apart simply by looking. Was a lot of fun, though. I always enjoy working with the corporate blackberries at the job. Reason being, it makes me appreciate Android and iOS that much more. I just consider the actual BES itself totally unnecessary, as Exchange already supports Activesync with IT policies.
meishkov
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Problem is things like this should NEVER have to go to courts. That right there shows they're cowards. This should be settled in the marketplace with new products. They chose this, they picked this fight. In case you didn't know courts are some of the shadiest govt branches in existence in this country today. The people in charge are not capable of making the right decisions That will greatly benefit all parties involved. This is not the way things like this should be decided, but as you know we all live in a far from perfect world, so the wrong decision can greatly impact our daily lives in an extremely negative way, now and for the foreseeable future.
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