I actually wrote 5 BlackBerry apps for this release for a company out in Washington. They did do something pretty interesting for this release where you can port Android APKs to BlackBerry BARs which will run flawlessly on the BlackBerry devices. You can convert an apk at apk2bar.unker.net and then they went a step further and I think it was $150 they offered to Android developers if you ported your app over for this release. They saw a huge influx of Android ports due to the program and because the ability to do this is there.

So in the end their app market is now top notch since they saw so many ports they actually had to go and hire a lot more people to man the approval process since they underestimated it.

If it is a good OS and with what gflam said, I have to wonder if businesses will migrate back to it. BB has a long standing relationship with businesses.

rim stock has tanked today, obviously for a reason. as far as i know, most government and non profit organizations have or are switching to ios.

i work for a non profit health system(a few dozen hospitals and clinics) and we have switched from bb to ios years ago.

i'll give rim two years before they're either bought out or bankrupt.

Looks good, not android good, but a good a tempt. The thing Rim has going for them is all the corporate businesses that already currently use BB phones and BB servers.

Also more competition is better for everyone.

I think even if this is a decent release it may be too little to late...

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I don't personally follow stocks a little young still ha but according to my dad at least they have been rising a lot up until this point. I'm pretty curious though nonetheless to see how they do with the new release. I honestly think they might be coming back maybe not to Android level but I could see them still surpassing the falling iPhone

If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. :blackberry: :heart: :greendroid:

haven't followed it myself either. However, if stocks were rising in days leading up to the announcement, and then tanked after the announcement...I'm guessing people weren't exactly thrilled with what they saw.

Competition is good for the consumer, better pricing, better devices, more innovation(as long as apple isn't involved).

the iPhone is failing? Tell me more... Didn't think so.

As for BB10, we still use a BES and have numerous 9900/9930 devices that I am in charge of. We do have a BYOD policy and have several iPhone/Android devices on the company email (Lotus). I look forward to testing the new BB10 devices and will hold my opinion for when the device is in hand (hopefully soon).

Once I get a chance to toy around with them I will let you guys know how I feel in a non-biased way.

that actually makes me want to try one of these phones out, I loved blackberry for it's email, for how well it worked... I could definitely see them competing again finally... it would be nice to bring more competition to android.

Hopefully it will help break up this duopoly that the market seems to be stuck in. I personally never cared for BB devices because everyone I knew that had one always had problems with them. I would like to see them make a comeback though and shake up the market a bit.

Really loved BBM even though with every new phone you had to "reconnect" with everybody. Half my time was changing peoples PINs. Circle of friends somebody was always trading in the phones for one that worked. I'll have to check one out, buy one? Never. RIM should hurry up and license BBM out.

aliens don't use razr's, they use obsidian.

The business scene will definitely still be giving this the strong eye. It will be nice if it works out for them, but I haven't seen anything that looks like it will really garner the attention of the majority of Android or iOS users. Sounds like their apps will be getting off to a much stronger start that WP8 though.

I used to love my BB phones; never had any problems with them. When they fell behind in the game, I made the switch to Android. I've loved every part of that decision since, with the exception for Verizon's lack of updates for my phone. Thank god for roms, eh? My biggest complaint with BB is that they didn't have enough to keep me entertained beyond Facebook and texting. It was dull. It seems they've managed to revamp their image in that department, so why can't they give Android and iOS a run for their money? Should be fun to watch, anyway.

Good competition. I like Android...but if I every got tired of it....BB10 would get a serious look from me. I am actually excited about this new BB. The features are looking nice. There are some nice demo clips out of the new features.

I looked around; are there no in-depth media releases for this? Teasing and hinting at capabilities is not the way to garner interest in a dying platform. BB's YouTube page is replete with two-minute snippets, but nothing of substance. Bad move.

I think their name alone helps, but they need to do ALOT of work in order to gain some serious traction. They need to keep the $150 thing for developers and they need to keep things very very simple. They need to kind of do what apple does and keep the screen sizes(or res) the same and go with a processor and stick with it for a year. The S4 pro would be a good choice.

They also need to make sure that the batteries can last.

Crackberry has a in depth analysis, way to long to read in one sitting (insert poogling joke here)

There review is very in depth but may be slightly skewed. (My personal opinion)

aliens don't use razr's, they use obsidian.