Motorolla to Unlock Bootloader

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    I am sure most of you have seen the news here: Motorola Clarifies Stance on Bootloaders, Looks to Partner With Developers? - Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog

    I originally thought that this might just be huff and puff from Moto in order to calm the PR storm they got themselves in to. In order to get a confirmation or some discussion, I created the following on their Get Satisfaction page: Please Unlock the Droid X Bootloader

    Earlier today, the post was marked as "Implemented" by Moto! They didn't comment on it, but this really makes me hopeful :)
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    Shall I start queuing up The X-files theme song?
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    It made me the opposite of hopeful. I read it like, "we might make it easy to theme, but we are gonna keep it locked down"
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    We can cross our fingers and hope that they are nice to us. I think they realize that it is the dedicated Android users who are their early adopters and who spread the word on devices and how great they actually are. I know I converted three people to Android in the last two months.
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    Motorola should have said,"we are going to make it easier to load ROMs not harder" , OPEN SOURCE means just that OPEN.
    To me my device is a mini PC and all of my PCs are mine to do with what I wish , after I buy a PC first thing I do is remove all the junk and load Linux dual boot , the maker can void support on the OS because I loaded a OS , but the product's hard drive is not locked keeping me from installing a different OS .
    My $0.2
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    Bingo, Moto should just put something on there that will detect we modded the phone, but not bother us in anyway, and then if that is triggered, Void our warranty, since That seems to be the only possible reason to have the BL there.

    Which in all honesty is a smart business choice given the practice of people that brick their phones and take them immediately back to Verizon. "and play dumb". the Verizon employees might buy it but once the phone makes it to Moto they will find out immediately I am sure that a mod was the killer of the phone.

    I know people will say that an no bootloader will limit bricking but I believe that people probably will still do that.

    TL;DR

    People need to stop returning phones they brick.

    EDIT: fixed my retarded english...
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    The first link in the op is moto's response to that response actually. They did some damage control stating that the "look elsewhere" response did not represent moto's stance and they would like to find a way to work with developers and possibly find some sort of compromise. Could just be big talk though.

    tappin and a talkin
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    Have to say I've allready made my mine up next phone will be either HTC or lg I'm done with samsung (had fascinate) and Motorola for locking my phone from me.

    Not that I think they care but then again I don't care if they care ill be rocking a sweet phone :p

    Hell might be a iphone 5 if its sweet enough atleat u can jailbreak them and run different OS's and mod it.
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    thank you. i starting modding back on winmo, and i'm still learning as go with android, but it really is maddening to see posts about people who tried to flash a rom, had a problem, and instead of working to solve it, just made up some bs and sent it back. i believe that behavior like that lead to a lot of the restrictions now in place. know your depth.

    /rant
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    Use to flashing a BIOS ROM was difficult on a PC mainboard , some would corrupt the ROM causing a return of the product, so manufacturers made it easier to flash the ROM with utilities they designed returns decreased greatly . Motorola could make a utility that would make consumers happy and reduce failures as well.
    My $.02
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    they should release the boot.img resigner or something like that

    this way devs can make roms and such without having to crack the bootloader but instead sign their own kernel so the phone will accept it
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    OPEN SOURCE means just that OPEN.
    To me my device is a mini PC and all of my PCs are mine to do with what I wish , after I buy a PC first thing I do is remove all the junk and load Linux dual boot , the maker can void support on the OS because I loaded a OS , but the product's hard drive is not locked keeping me from installing a different OS .
    That is exactly what I do, and how I hate when you buy a computer, they always state, "The Warranty will be void if the OS is other than MS" MS, really!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Moto will never unlock the bootloader! and I hate the word never
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    Hate to be the pessimist, but when the Moto PR person used the term "developers", how do we know that they don't just mean the Moto developers. Not the Community.

    Trust me I am just as wishful as the next man but multi million dollar company listening to consumers that they deem a small percentage of their customers.

    This thing also makes me wonder about the actual people that designed moto's whole thing, how are they handling the lack of customization, or are they happy running around with blur? or do they have the code to unlock thier phones :icon_eek:
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    "As communicated yesterday, we are still looking at bootloader solutions that will meet the needs of both our developers and protect our end users." - Mark (Forums Manager) at get satisfaction.

    unfortunately I figured they didn't mean TBH or any of our other Devs
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    Don't trust moto. They are just trying to repair their image with these statements. I'll believe it when i see it. They are hoping we will forget about the locked bootloaders in a couple months. My guess is they will wait to see how sales are with the bionic before they unlock anything.

    sent from my rooted nook color
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    Well, if you check the thread in this forum, and my site wix.com/palmercurling/Project-Bootloader-Freedom, you can see the progress we have made on bypassing the lock down.

    I know I will not be buying another motorola phone, and in fact, when my dad gets his droid incredible 4g, I'm getting his current one because I'm so unhappy with motorola's stance on open source.

    Showing them with our wallets may be the only way to have an unlocked bootloader, sanctioned by motorola.

    Sent from my DROIDX
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    Their response to this will determine if I stay with Moto. I spend a lot and rave a lot about my DX, and people have bought them and had me set it up. If they have no interest in helping a small group with something that doesn't affect them, then I am done.

    What phone should I get? Big screen (4+) and decent specs are all I want with an unlocked bootloader. D1 is just too small for me to get used to. Suggestions?
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