Comparison Chart: Motorola XOOM vs. iPad

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Although I agree that you can get a much more powerful laptop for the same price, it is not really a valid argument. I can also argue that I can get an even more powerful desktop and 21.5 inch monitor for the same price. That's why I bought a desktop and a 21.5 inch monitor last month for home use. Making the same performance lighter and smaller has always cost more and probably always will. Making something smaller and lighter for the same price will result in less performance.

Now arguing that the laptop or desktop is the better deal is valid, but only for the person making that argument or someone who is thinking the same. It all depends on what your usage is and what works for your needs. For many, the desktop and a bigger monitor is the answer, unless you need portability. Then the laptop is the answer, unless you want or need something even lighter. In that case, a tablet might be the best. Basically, any configuration is the best, depending on the person's needs.

I have a Dell i5 desktop, a 3 year old Dell laptop and a NOOKcolor. My wife has an eeePC. Obviously, I have no clear preference. :)
 

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Ok ordered a nook color if it's sweet enough after root I might sell my iPad ;)
 

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Although I agree that you can get a much more powerful laptop for the same price, it is not really a valid argument. I can also argue that I can get an even more powerful desktop and 21.5 inch monitor for the same price. That's why I bought a desktop and a 21.5 inch monitor last month for home use. Making the same performance lighter and smaller has always cost more and probably always will. Making something smaller and lighter for the same price will result in less performance.

Now arguing that the laptop or desktop is the better deal is valid, but only for the person making that argument or someone who is thinking the same. It all depends on what your usage is and what works for your needs. For many, the desktop and a bigger monitor is the answer, unless you need portability. Then the laptop is the answer, unless you want or need something even lighter. In that case, a tablet might be the best. Basically, any configuration is the best, depending on the person's needs.

I have a Dell i5 desktop, a 3 year old Dell laptop and a NOOKcolor. My wife has an eeePC. Obviously, I have no clear preference. :)

an argument about a laptop over a tablet is valid because they are both portable devices... Any desktop with the same specs will be better than a laptop or tablet. so that is not valid.

The thing about tablets is that we are living in the Era of The Cloud and mobile technology. Tablets are simple, easy to carry, and extremely convenient. It's the new wave. You always pay extra for convenience and for what's new/hot. It's why a 16 oz bottle of water from a vending machine costs $1 and a 24 pack of the same water from a food market costs $4. Tablets are also, at this early stage (though they have existed for a while) , seen by most as a multimedia device and not a computer.


Either way i want em all lol.
 

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Although I agree that you can get a much more powerful laptop for the same price, it is not really a valid argument. I can also argue that I can get an even more powerful desktop and 21.5 inch monitor for the same price. That's why I bought a desktop and a 21.5 inch monitor last month for home use. Making the same performance lighter and smaller has always cost more and probably always will. Making something smaller and lighter for the same price will result in less performance.

Now arguing that the laptop or desktop is the better deal is valid, but only for the person making that argument or someone who is thinking the same. It all depends on what your usage is and what works for your needs. For many, the desktop and a bigger monitor is the answer, unless you need portability. Then the laptop is the answer, unless you want or need something even lighter. In that case, a tablet might be the best. Basically, any configuration is the best, depending on the person's needs.

I have a Dell i5 desktop, a 3 year old Dell laptop and a NOOKcolor. My wife has an eeePC. Obviously, I have no clear preference. :)

an argument about a laptop over a tablet is valid because they are both portable devices... Any desktop with the same specs will be better than a laptop or tablet. so that is not valid.

The thing about tablets is that we are living in the Era of The Cloud and mobile technology. Tablets are simple, easy to carry, and extremely convenient. It's the new wave. You always pay extra for convenience and for what's new/hot. It's why a 16 oz bottle of water from a vending machine costs $1 and a 24 pack of the same water from a food market costs $4. Tablets are also, at this early stage (though they have existed for a while) , seen by most as a multimedia device and not a computer.


Either way i want em all lol.

As I said, your argument is valid because it is valid to you, as mine is valid because it is valid to me. Both of us are correct, but only to ourselves. What works for one does not work for another. I consider the tablet and notebook to be considerably different in portability and convenience.
 

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I don't think this site is giving any cred.....

Look, I get that you are making claims for the XOOM over the iPad. It's only natural to want to help take away customers from Apple in this industry. However, don't you think it's funny that you are comparing the XOOM to a tablet that came out a year ago?

Here is where you went wrong:
- The iPad DOES indeed sport the "ability" for an SD card reader (if you actually want it, most really do not care as you cannot place apps on them)
- You do not list the ports available properly, does the iPad have NO ports? (plus VGA or component add ons IF you actually want it, HDMI coming with the release of iOS 4.3 that allows for replication of your iPad)
- Also, why don't you add the number of applications per phone.
- How about weight?
- How about dimensions?

This is a piss poor excuse for a forum subject. Now that the iPad 2 specs are out, why don't you compare apples to apples (this time with factual data, not complete crap) go back to school and learn what critical thinking is.

I'm not a DROID basher or Apple fanboy, I'm just asking you to be a little bit more realistic in your research. Offer facts and offer references and citations as to where you are getting your information.
 

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This is a piss poor excuse for a forum subject. Now that the iPad 2 specs are out, why don't you compare apples to apples (this time with factual data, not complete crap) go back to school and learn what critical thinking is.

I'm not a DROID basher or Apple fanboy, I'm just asking you to be a little bit more realistic in your research. Offer facts and offer references and citations as to where you are getting your information.

I think you had some valid points but you lost any hope of a decent response when you were disrespectful. You could have said what you had to without the disrespect. Now all anyone is going to read is that and not your point of view. Respectful posts will receive respect in return.
 

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I think you had some valid points but you lost any hope of a decent response when you were disrespectful. You could have said what you had to without the disrespect. Now all anyone is going to read is that and not your point of view. Respectful posts will receive respect in return.

I'm sorry you feel as if my post was disrespectful. It's also disrespectful to offer up information that is not based on factual evidence to an audience, that seems like, it respects your information because you are suppose to be the professional. How are you doing your forum users any justice by offering this type of information?

IF no one reposts something on my post, it's not because of what I said, it will be due to the fact that you cannot dispute factual information.

I don't need to buy respect by posting flowers and happy faces on my post, just to get a response. I don't care if someone bashes me all to hell and back to be completely honest. I just want people to think outside of the DRIOD and Apple box. This may help judging the products in a non-bias way.

Thank you for your time
 

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I am an Apple advocate on this forum so there is no fanboism here. But I am also a big advocate of being respectful. I agree with your points to a certain extent, where you lost me was the bashing of our forum. Whether or not you think it was necessary is a moot point because it wasn't necessary in the slightest. You will find the vast majority of people here are very respectful even to someone who has a completely opposite opinion on something.
 

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I am an Apple advocate on this forum so there is no fanboism here. But I am also a big advocate of being respectful. I agree with your points to a certain extent, where you lost me was the bashing of our forum. Whether or not you think it was necessary is a moot point because it wasn't necessary in the slightest. You will find the vast majority of people here are very respectful even to someone who has a completely opposite opinion on something.

ok..........
 
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I am an Apple advocate on this forum so there is no fanboism here. But I am also a big advocate of being respectful. I agree with your points to a certain extent, where you lost me was the bashing of our forum. Whether or not you think it was necessary is a moot point because it wasn't necessary in the slightest. You will find the vast majority of people here are very respectful even to someone who has a completely opposite opinion on something.

ok..........

I mean you no disrespect at all but if you went over to an Apple Forum they would say anything Android is garbage.. I used to like Apple had an Iphone 3G and 4G once upon a time.. But had horrible service with AT&T.. Got rid of the iPhone 4G and got an DX after coming to Android I found it to be so much better and will not go back to Apple or AT&T. Customization is it for me.. Now I am waiting for the Bionic and took my wife's Storm1 and gave her my DX.. It is just Torture.. Worst phone ever... Just remember be respectful and remember what are said on forums are peoples opinions and not the opinion of the Droid Forums as a whole...
 

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An SD slot card reader is no built in which most want. When you start adding periferary (spelling) objects to have the same functionality that somethign else has built in is not a fair comparison nor is it even. The tool with the feature built in woudl still win in that arguement.

# of apps can be important though many are blown up versions of the iPhone apps whereas honeycomb is a tablet dedicated OS which was overlooked by yourself. Sure Apple has more apps but it is also a year older. To have nearly 100 apps out for honeycomb when it has been out what a week is impressive and they will continue to grow. I imagine both Apple and Droid to be on similar footing come next year in terms of apps much like they are getting in the phone market.

Then you fail to bring up the lack of flash on Apple phones. I need flash on my devices. If I am going to forego a laptop for a tablet to use as mainly a media digester then I need flash. I know it might open me up to security issues and is a system hog but it is engrained intot he web at this point and thus should be on our devices.

Both options are still too expensive for me to consider at this point. Too much of an upcharge over a netbook or laptop for the formfactor. If they were in the $4-500 range for wifi only I woudl be all in so hopefully the Ipad2 is the competitive driver needed for the Xoom to lower prices and vice versa. I want a price war to make these things more affordable.

I like that there are options to meet anyones need but if you are talking straight up specs like this thread intended to do then the iPad2 loses slightly to the Xoom which is unfortunate considering a lot of the talk of added features in recent days...
 

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I mean you no disrespect at all but if you went over to an Apple Forum they would say anything Android is garbage.. I used to like Apple had an Iphone 3G and 4G once upon a time.. But had horrible service with AT&T.. Got rid of the iPhone 4G and got an DX after coming to Android I found it to be so much better and will not go back to Apple or AT&T. Customization is it for me.. Now I am waiting for the Bionic and took my wife's Storm1 and gave her my DX.. It is just Torture.. Worst phone ever... Just remember be respectful and remember what are said on forums are peoples opinions and not the opinion of the Droid Forums as a whole...

How did you feel about Windows all these years they were crashing your computer? Please keep in mind that Microsoft has been keeping me employed since 96. ;) Apple is also an employer, since 2005 though.

As soon as the Android OS came out, I said to my coworkers, this OS will take off because people want to do what they want on - any - device. It's open for the most part, but that does not make it a solid system. When I think about buying something, in the end I just want the thing to work. the Android OS will loose in this area, manly because of the demand, not because they are making a conscious choice.

I'm sorry that AT&T completely sucks ass.... ok, I'm not sorry about that at all :) The one thing that AT&T has going for them is they are WAY faster than competitors. This is not to say their service is not spotty, at best. I can understand why you left the iPhone just for that simple reason.

The only - major - issue i have with the Android market, is that there are like 20+ different phones out already. From a users support standpoint, that sucks, and i even have the ability to remote in via LogMeIn Rescue Mobile. Sometimes more is really too much. If it was flat across the board until you made you own personal changes, I feel better supporting the product.

I think Android does very well in the email category, the iPhone is horrible and the Blackberry kills it. Biggest problem with active sync and business users is when they change their passwords online and do not understand what that really means.

good times!
 

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An SD slot card reader is no built in which most want. When you start adding periferary (spelling) objects to have the same functionality that somethign else has built in is not a fair comparison nor is it even. The tool with the feature built in woudl still win in that arguement.

What can you really do with an SD card reader on a tablet anyway? Pictures from a camera? Download music? I would rather start seeing 32GB, 64GB and 128GB options for tablets at the same price. If you need to upload something, get the adapter. Think of how many things are wireless now, why the memory cards?

# of apps can be important though many are blown up versions of the iPhone apps whereas honeycomb is a tablet dedicated OS which was overlooked by yourself. Sure Apple has more apps but it is also a year older. To have nearly 100 apps out for honeycomb when it has been out what a week is impressive and they will continue to grow. I imagine both Apple and Droid to be on similar footing come next year in terms of apps much like they are getting in the phone market.

ok, so honeycomb is its own OS... can you explain to me the benefit? If they shared OS's, then you would have a lot more than 100 apps right now, correct? Which is exactly what Apple did and had the ability to use all of the iPhone/Touch apps on the iPad right away. That is great marketing! Plus, Apple test all applications sent to the market. That is great QA, I wish Microsoft did that "for free".

Then you fail to bring up the lack of flash on Apple phones. I need flash on my devices. If I am going to forego a laptop for a tablet to use as mainly a media digester then I need flash. I know it might open me up to security issues and is a system hog but it is engrained intot he web at this point and thus should be on our devices.

Flash is good for watching porn... HAHA J/K ;)

HTML 5 will stream any file to any source based on what the source can handle and the bandwidth to the device. Doesn't that sound smarter? No more, "well... am I compatible?" Company's like Netflix and Hulu are going down this route because apple made it completely open sourced. Flash is not a true open source and you need to update it all the time. It is also draining on a portable device, which is the #1 reason why Apple did not go with flash on their portable devices. They like long battery life. Me too..

Both options are still too expensive for me to consider at this point. Too much of an upcharge over a netbook or laptop for the formfactor. If they were in the $4-500 range for wifi only I woudl be all in so hopefully the Ipad2 is the competitive driver needed for the Xoom to lower prices and vice versa. I want a price war to make these things more affordable.

I with you on this one. They are really expensive! The iPad 2 came in at the same prices as the first iPad, which makes it a better choice than the XOOM, depending on what features you are looking for (Apps, battery life, power, stability, support, and market tested)

I like that there are options to meet anyones need but if you are talking straight up specs like this thread intended to do then the iPad2 loses slightly to the Xoom which is unfortunate considering a lot of the talk of added features in recent days...

This thread does not compare the iPad 2 to the XOOM.
Apple - iPad - View the technical specifications for iPad.
That should help clear things up for you.

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