all excited about the new one click root,but before that..now I need to learn more

[chefb]

About roms....I've been reading around this forum but still have a few questions.
1) is there anyway I can back up my system on my phone (my computer is out of service )
2) after rooting what are the next steps (remember never rooted and I have no computer.
3) what roms are compatible with titanium pro, meaning what won't simi brick my phone after freezing stock apps.
4) what is RSD lite, do I need to learn that?

 

[Nightmares]

I'd like some of these answered as well.

 

[TVC430]

Once you root your phone you unlock a lot of customization you can do on your phone to create the experience you desire via ROM's and themes. It is fun and comes with a learning curve. I would suggest that you read about the type of ROM's you are interested in, but do not do try to install anything on your phone until you understand the basic safe recovery methods available to get out of any trouble you may experience.

My suggestion would be:

-Root
-Download Droid X Bootstrapper (this is essential)
-Download ROM Manager
-Download ROM Manager Premium (This saves your butt so I suggest paying)
-Open Droid X bootstrapper and hit the first button "Bootstrap into Recovery"
(It should then say "Success")
-Open ROM Manager
-Press the top section which says "flash ClockworkMod Recovery"
(a popup window will give you a few selections and choose "Droid X", it should then say "Successfully downloaded Clockwork Recovery")
-Then goto "Backup Current ROM"
(It will bring up a popup with a default date as a name. You can change this if you wish.)
-Hit OK
(your phone will then reboot and begin the "nandroid backup" which saves the entire state of your phone at this time. It will return you to the exact place at which you saved if you get in trouble. The only thing you do not save is some apps which you can go to Google Market, hit menu - downloads and restore them. Titanium backup or My Backup Pro will also save your apps.)

Once you have the nandroid backup, you have the first piece of your safety net built, and the most essential.

The second essential piece is to read about doing an sbf on your phone back to go back to a stock operating system (Usually a last resort method). It is what Moto uses when someone comes in to the store and they have bricked their phone. The sticky's in this forum have information about doing this and I would try it and feel comfortable with doing this recovery before trying any ROM's or Themes. One thing I have found valuable is to never try installing, sbf'ing or any alterations without a fully charged battery. If you run into trouble, it may take you a while to fix and I have been in situations where the charger is not working with my phone bricked.

I thought your post was good in trying to understand what you need to do before you get into trouble. The people in this forum are always willing to help, but one of the first things you will always be asked is: Do you have clockworkmod, did you flash it before you tried doing whatever, did you do a nandroid backup. These are a few things that I have learned and I hope if I have forgotten something, others in the forum will add to this.

 

[droidkm]

thanks for that explanation above. i have some experience with a d1 but none with the x. a quick question about unrooting. say i follow all your instructions, then uninstall all bloatware, put on a theme, etc. how simple is unrooting from there? i've never done anything with sbf, and on d1 i can just nandroid back to stock/unrooted. can i do that on the x? if i have to sbf back, does sbf work just like nandroid in that i can just download a file that will bring me back to stock/put back the bloatware/etc for if i wanted to ota update sometime in the future?

 

[chefb]

Wow ....thanks I will keep reading and in the mean time slowly build/modify my phone. And ditto with the above comment

 

[Nightmares]

Same, Ive rooted it, saved a backup file. Downloaded a few apps only available for rooted phones. Now im just slowly trying to figure where to go from here lol

 

[TVC430]

I am explaining this from a I have been there done and that point of view. It is somewhat assuming you know what I am referring too. Please ask questions. I have learned a lot in this forum.

 

[TVC430]

There is at the very basic a two part back up. The very first and most important is a clockwork interruption of the stock boot. It gives you options that the stock boot does not offer. You can "Restore from backup" to save your a$$ and return to a safe place.

The process sbf is being in a spot where you have no other choice but to take your phone and bring it back to the spot where you were so excited to see the package on your doorstep, open it and it is that new again. It gives you the ability to make it "Like a Verizon--Touched for the very first time"

 

[chefb]

Ok but im limited to my phone only.....desktop is bad. As long as the force is trong I'll follow it yoda. Lol...... keep the advise coming.

 

[Raziel36]

Honestly, without access to a PC, I wouldn't do too much with the X. I never once had to use an SBF with my D1, and was very well versed in recovering my phone using just the phone. The problem with the X is that you can't fully replace the stock recovery with Clockwork, like you could on the D1. So if you happen to brick your X, simply turning the power on while holding the Home button isn't a fallback to restoring a previous nandroid backup, as you will be greeted with the stock recovery that you can't do anything with. If you get stuck in a boot loop after installing a theme, or stuck at the M logo on boot, you're only real option, for now, is to use an SBF. I've already had to do this 2-3 times on my X in the past 3 days lol. Mainly because the new Fission ROM will NOT boot on my X for some reason, sticks on a boot loop(open to suggestions on this problem, by the way lol, wanna try that ROM). I would, at least, download a copy of RSD Lite, MotoConnect and the SBF file on my phone and have them on my memory card, just in case. That way, you could at least use someone else' computer to restore your phone(so long as they had a MicroSD Card reader or another device that would allow the transferring of the files to their computer). Just my two cents. Messing with the X is not nearly as forgiving as the D1.. thank you Moto and your boot loader :icon_evil:

 

[chefb]

Tc430...where do you get these sb files, and who is "sticky" ,do I save it on my sd card, also revis what does holding the home key and the power button do? How do you save to the sd card?

 

[TVC430]

There is a lot of information about sbf's on this site Home

 

[chkmate]

Tc430...where do you get these sb files, and who is "sticky" ,do I save it on my sd card, also revis what does holding the home key and the power button do? How do you save to the sd card?

Go here to read on SBF>>>Droid X Full 2.2 SBF

A sticky is usually the top 5 threads on any section of the forum. Sticky's are the most used/important threads out there. They are put there by the Admin's and/or Moderators.

Holding the Home key and Power key at the same time will get you into SPR Recovery. This is where you can do a factory reset, apply an update.zip and wipe data/cache. You hold Home and Power till the /\/\ comes up, then let go of the Power button. After the droid comes up with the little triangle, release the Home button and hit your Search button, this puts you in SPR.

Depending on what your saving to your SD card, you just move it over from your PC to the root of your SD card. You do this by plugging your phone in to your PC and selecting "USB Mass storage" from your USB connection. A file you want read in Clockwork or SPR needs to be placed on the root of the SD card without placing it in a folder.

 

[chefb]

Thanks..for the link they also have rsdlite how dose this help

 

[chkmate]

Thanks..for the link they also have rsdlite how dose this help

In the event that you need to flash SBF to your phone you will need RSD Lite to read the file, read your phone and flash it to your phone.

As far as experience goes, I have none. I have been lucky/smart enough not to screw up my phone to where I need an SBF. Knock on wood.

So please read everything you can before proceeding with whatever it is you plan on doing