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Discussion in 'Droid X Hacks' started by cadre.9, Jan 30, 2012.

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    Hi. I was able to root my DX using Petes Motorola Root Tools. I want to install a ROM but I've read that it's important to back everything up first. Therein lies my problem. I've downloaded Titanium Backup. I understand I also need Droid 2 bootstrap and RSDLite installed in order to do a Nandroid backup. I've read so many instructions and tutorials my brain is beginning to bleed. Each thing I read says something slightly different from what I read before or uses terms and phrases that I have to stop and google before I can continue. Surprisingly there seems to be no single source that clearly explains this process.

    Anyway, I downloaded the Droid 2 Bootstrap (bootstrap-1.0.0.5-droid2.apk) from Motorola Droid X: Full Update Guide - CyanogenMod Wiki.

    The instructions are:

    "Copy the Droid 2 Recovery Bootstrap to the same folder as adb (the /platform-tools folder within the Android SDK folder).
    Connect the Motorola Droid X to the computer via USB.
    On the computer, open terminal and run the following command: adb push bootstrap-1.0.0.5-droid2.apk /system/app/

    The Droid 2 Recovery Bootstrap with the ClockworkMod Recovery should now be installed on the Motorola Droid X."

    Those instructions assume the reader has an Android SDK folder, which I couldn't find, so I googled that. At this location (Howto: Install the Android SDK - CyanogenMod Wiki) I found a 27-step process for installing the SDK.

    Am I correct in assuming that once I install and run this SDK, then I can load the RSDLite and the Droid 2 Recovery Bootstrap, then I can back up my phone, then I can load a ROM? (Whew!!)

    I appreciate any guidance.
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    You don't actually need rsd lite to do a back up. It is something you need to recover your phone if something goes wrong. So it is important to have set up ans make sure it recognizes your phone.

    And the bootstrap you can download off the market as you wouldn't need sdk to flash it at that point.

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    To make a nandroid, all you need is the D2 Bootstrap app. Hit bootstrap recovery and it will say "Success!" Then hit reboot recovery. When you get to the Clockwork Recovery screen, use the volume buttons to highlight backup and restore and the camera button to select it. Then select backup.

    Your phone will make a nandroid backup aand save it to your SD.

    To flash a ROM, make sure you have the ROM downloaded and on your SD Card. Use bootstrap to boot into Clockwork Recovery and select wipe data. Then go to advanced and wipe dalvik cache. Now, select install zip from SD Card. Then select choose zip. Find the ROM file and select it. It will install the ROM and then just reboot.

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    Thank you both for replying.

    I purchased the Droid 2 Bootstrap app from the Market. There was a warning not to use it unless I'm comfortable doing an SBF, which I've never done. So off I went to read various tutorials on how to SBF the Droid X (how do you guys remember all this stuff??).

    I haven't downloaded an SBF for Gingerbread yet. Would you recommend I learn how to do that before trying to run the Bootstrap app?

    Forgive me if I'm being overly cautious, I'd just hate to mess up my phone.
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    You are not being overly cautious at all. It is a great idea to know how to SBF before you dive into heavy Modding. Having to learn how to do it when there is an issue is much harder to do and considerably more stressful.

    I always recommend people get rsd set up and make sure it sees the phone before going too far.

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    JSM9872, I can't tell you how much I appreciate you taking the time to help. I'm still muddling through but I'm confident I'll get there.

    I've downloaded the latest version of RSD Lite (4.9) but I'm having trouble with the SBF download. All the links I've tried take me to the same Multiupload.com site where I get all kinds of warnings popping up. Is there some place else I can get the file?
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    First of all I am very happy to help out whenever I can :D

    And the multi upload thing may be a challenge. When I get to my computer I will try and see if I can dig up a good link for you.

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    1KDS had a site hosting the sbf files... I don't have a link on me right now...

    Post script: here it ishttp://sites.google.com/site/1kdsdroidx/


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    Yeah that's the one I was going to try and get. Thanks nemo.

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    That's not working for me. Each time it tries to download a small (2 or 6 kb) file called "x". I returned to original site, ignored the warnings and clicked download. It downloaded an .exe file called "ilividsetupv1". I'm a little apprehensive about running an executable without being certain what it is. Is this the correct file?
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    No... That's not something you should install... The file will be a .sbf file

    Post script: sorry about that... Sends there was a little but of junk in the link... It's fixed.... Should work for ya now...

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    Why if you have a DROIDX did you download the DROID 2 bootstrap? You should have downloaded the DROIDX bootstrap.

    From my rooted, bricked, sbf'd, rooted again and flashed DROIDX
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    Because he's on gingerbread and droid2 bootstrap works better on GB. Droid 2 bootstrap is just an updated version of DX bootstrap.

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    The Droid 2 bootstrap is just an updated version of the Droid x bootstrap...
    So the Droid 2 bootstrap works better with gingerbread....
    If you use Droid x bootstrap you have to disable USB debugging...

    post script: and ninja'd

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    You don't need RSD to be able to make a Nandroid... just Bootstrap, or Rom Manager. ROM Manager allows you to flash InIt and 2nd InIt and boot into recovery. Also allows for easy management of Nandroid and app backups.

    ROM Manager:
    https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager&hl=en

    Try this for SBF'ing:
    http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/d...-solution-your-windows-rsd-lite-problems.html

    Sent from my DROIDX
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    Guys, thank you all so much. I got the SBF. and ran RSD Lite just to verify that it saw everything. I didn't load the SBF. because I don't want to make any changes to the phone yet but now, at least, I understand the process.

    I created my Nandroid backup and I'm doing the Titanium Pro backup as I type this. Sometime today or tomorrow I plan to try my first ROM.

    You guys are amazing. I just want you all to know how much I appreciate your support and advice.

    A couple of questions:

    When would I need to do an SBF. as opposed to merely restoring via Nandroid?
    To save space on my SD card is it advisable to move the backed up files to my computer or should they stay on the phone?

    Thanks again.

    cadre
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    Normally you wouldn't do an sbf unless you really screwed up like trying to install a froyo rom on gingerbread or the other way around. If you mess up bad enough that you can't get back into clockwork recovery to restore a nandroid then you would sbf. For the most part if your careful about what your doing and always ask first if your not sure about something you can avoid messing up bad enough to need to sbf. The good thing about doing an sbf is that it's very simple now.

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    Savagerun is right... And to answer your second question. Saving Nandroids to your computer is always a good idea if you want to save some space. The only down side to that is that you will only be able to restore when you're near your computer.

    You can also save them to Dropbox, where you can access them from anywhere. The only issue with Dropbox is that you wil be uploading and downloading files around 1GB in size. If you do want to give Dropbox a try then I recommend using WiFi:

    https://market.android.com/details?id=com.dropbox.android

    Sent from my DROIDX
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    Thank you. Dropbox is a good idea. I'm down to about a gig of space there but I can always get more.


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