Smart Actions conflicting?

[eddie7]

I started with the basics home and work. But I tried setting 1 up for weekend and it keeps my phone from connecting to my home wifi. Is there a way to make Home override all others?

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[FoxKat]

I started with the basics home and work. But I tried setting 1 up for weekend and it keeps my phone from connecting to my home wifi. Is there a way to make Home override all others? <br>
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There must be something wrong with your triggers. Either they aren't all being satisfied on the HOME WIFI Smart Action, or you have a conflict. You have to be sure that ALL of the triggers are active on at least ONE of the Smart Actions, and that there are not more than 1 Smart Action which has ALL of the triggers active at the same time, if the actions on any two or more Smart Actions are in any way conflicting.<br>

 

[eddie7]

Triggers should be fine. Home is set to location. Weekend is set to a time frame. The plan was whenever I am at home I want to my Wifi. Seems like an "away from location" would be a useful trigger. Anyone else have any ideas?

 

[techgov8]

Triggers should be fine. Home is set to location. Weekend is set to a time frame. The plan was whenever I am at home I want to my Wifi. Seems like an "away from location" would be a useful trigger. Anyone else have any ideas?

Sometimes they conflict when one action or trigger overlaps another one.Mine still work when they do this. You can check and see which ones are running in smart actions. You have your wifi on correct? Cause the wifi is needed for GPS location to be received and to see where you're located

 

[pinoy_92]

i found that making a separate rule for my data connection works the best without conflicting with anything.

im doing programming in school and i found out that sometimes its better to separate some rules instead of putting all of it in one.

this is my home/wifi setup:

Home

Triggers: Location
Actions: ringer volume 50%, display timeout 2mins, brightness 100%, background sync on

Wifi

Triggers: wifi connection
actions: dellular data disable.

hope this helps!

 

[FoxKat]

Triggers should be fine. Home is set to location. Weekend is set to a time frame. The plan was whenever I am at home I want to my Wifi. Seems like an "away from location" would be a useful trigger. Anyone else have any ideas?

Question, is Weekend also set to turn off WIFI?

The possible issue here is that Weekend is ONLY set to a timeframe, so it doesn't matter whether you are home and have WIFI or anywhere else for that matter. In other words, Weekend will activate EVEN WHEN YOU ARE HOME, and if it conflicts with the Home setting by turning off WIFI, you don't get WIFI at home. It's that simple.

I use several alternatives, but the best one I've found for identifying home is to use the WIFI itself. Since WIFI is ON all the time on the home wireless router, and since it can only be seen within a certain distance around the home, it works better than even Location to identify when I am home. Simply make a trigger that sees your WIFI connection to identify home. You kill two birds with one stone. Also, use Verizon's WIFI Auto-On tool to turn on WIFI on the phone when you are in areas where there is a known WIFI connection (like home), and by virtue of it's design it turns OFF the WIFI when you leave home, giving you the "away" you're looking for.

This arrangement works perfectly for me since I have WIFI at work and at home, but obviously don't have it in the car. If you want, I can send the full layouts to you but it should be rather common sense at that point.

I agree that there needs to be more reverse triggers to the forward triggers already found, but I am hoping they know this and will bring them on board. For instance, you can detect whether the phone is NOT charging, as well as charging, and even what type of charger. You can detect whether you DON'T have headphones plugged in or do, but can't determine if you are NOT at home by location. This is why if you have WIFI at home, you should be using it to trigger home, unless you want Cellular data for something specific.

Keep Location as a trigger for times when you know there is NO WIFI available, such as at the Movies, and let it trigger things like Ringer Volume off, screen Brightness to Automatic, and Display Timeout to 15 seconds, for instance.

Of course everyone knows that WIFI is (currently) required to be ON for Smart Actions to work properly. We'll have to see if that roadblock is lifted in the next iteration of Smart Actions.

 

[techgov8]

Of course everyone knows that WIFI is (currently) required to be ON for Smart Actions to work properly. We'll have to see if that roadblock is lifted in the next iteration of Smart Actions.

Not ALL smart actions require wifi. I have one set so when my display is off and its not charging my GPS and data go off. If you use locations then wifi is needed for those

 

[FoxKat]

Not ALL smart actions require wifi. I have one set so when my display is off and its not charging my GPS and data go off. If you use locations then wifi is needed for those

Agreed, but my comment was "required to be ON for Smart Actions to work properly." You will agree that SA doesn't work properly (i.e. 100%) if WIFI is off, however it will work for many functions with it off. I also have SAs that don't use WIFI On (such as when I am in my car), but if you are using Location as a trigger (as this OP was), Smart Actions REQUIRES WIFI to be on. This is why using Verizon WIFI On works well to circumvent that limitation. When I leave home, Verizon WIFI Auto-On turns the WIFI off on my phone and that lets my car profile take over. For my phone, WIFI is only on when either at Work or Home. Otherwise it's off and I still use SAs for other purposes.

 

[techgov8]

Agreed. I recently turned my wifi policy to turn off when the phones asleep which helps a lot as well on battery

 

[unrl]

Funny thing about Smart Actions, I just did a Battery Extender one. What I selected was Triggers - Display off and No Battery Charging, Actions - Turn Off GPS and turn off Background data sync.

Once I did that, I told my mate to WhatsApp me once I turn my screen off. Turned my screen display back on, and I saw his message on WhatsApp. What I'm curious about is, by setting these triggers, my 3G should be turning off and not receiving any messages from WhatsApp, anyone know why? Please help!

When I looked into Smart Actions again, it says "Ready" as the status.

 

[pinoy_92]

Funny thing about Smart Actions, I just did a Battery Extender one. What I selected was Triggers - Display off and No Battery Charging, Actions - Turn Off GPS and turn off Background data sync.

Once I did that, I told my mate to WhatsApp me once I turn my screen off. Turned my screen display back on, and I saw his message on WhatsApp. What I'm curious about is, by setting these triggers, my 3G should be turning off and not receiving any messages from WhatsApp, anyone know why? Please help!

When I looked into Smart Actions again, it says "Ready" as the status.

You have to turn off your data (e.g. wifi and 3g/4g) and even then you can still receive calls and text messages.

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[unrl]

But there's no options in Smart Actions to do that unfortunately?

The thing is, when I set that trigger, my 3g actually turns off, and when I turn my display on again, my 3g icon is grey in colour and turns blue (when its activated). So as you can see, when I turn my display off, my 3g SHOULD be turning off hence not being able to receive ANY WhatsApp messages at all. WhatsApp is different from normal txts or calls, normal txts and calls don't require 3g to function.

 

[eddie7]

Thanks for the info. I do have home WiFi. So I will use that as my Home trigger. Currently I have location and WiFi as the triggers. I use to use Juice Defender Ultimate, but I wanted to use SA since it is native to the phone. I have seen some good battery life improvements already. The one problem I have seen since using SA though is sometimes the WiFi icon is grey. And I have to reset my router to get connected again.

 

[techgov8]

Thanks for the info. I do have home WiFi. So I will use that as my Home trigger. Currently I have location and WiFi as the triggers. I use to use Juice Defender Ultimate, but I wanted to use SA since it is native to the phone. I have seen some good battery life improvements already. The one problem I have seen since using SA though is sometimes the WiFi icon is grey. And I have to reset my router to get connected again.

I took off my location and just use the wifi for my trigger cause the location isn't exact to the address. I could go almost a block from my house and the smart action wouldn't shut off. Sometimes my wifi does that too but when I got a new router it seemed to help