I never had this issue before but now when some of my iphone friends (same ones as before) make a group message and include me im not getting it! Also, when I created a group message with the same exact people I wasn't getting their responses at all from my own group message. Verizon made me hard reset my phone so I did which sucked and I tested and started another message with the same 4 people all iphone users, I was able to get a response back from one of them and one other turned off iMessage and I then got hers but the first person still had their iMessage on and the other two people I didn't get their responses at all! Can it be this new crappy ice cream sandwich update?! I never had a problem before group messaging with the same 4 iphone users weather they had their iMessage on or not. This sucks! Anyone having the same group problems? I checked my settings and mms is checked and the verizon techs said all my settings look fine but it's only on my end it's not working. I had the droid 2 before this and there was never any issues with group messaged to iphone users, this phone sucks.