No GPS?

[darkmatter]

MOTODEV > Products > Compare Motorola Products

Bottom of the page, there is no stand alone gps for the Bionic. Not sure exactly what it means, but if its what I'm thinking that would put it in the un-buyable category for me. I work in the desert and mountains, often with very weak or no cell signal. I very much use the gps on my phone (its always faster than the Garmin they issue us)

 

[OriginalDroid]

A possible flagship phone without GPS?!?!?

Verizon and Moto have combined for some pretty dumb $#!% ideas, but that ain't one of em.

 

[sk102704]

MOTODEV > Products > Compare Motorola Products

Bottom of the page, there is no stand alone gps for the Bionic. Not sure exactly what it means, but if its what I'm thinking that would put it in the un-buyable category for me. I work in the desert and mountains, often with very weak or no cell signal. I very much use the gps on my phone (its always faster than the Garmin they issue us)

I believe it has simultaneous GPS which I read another person saying was better than stand alone GPS. I don't know a whole lot about it but he was saying it was capable of doing more things simultaneously, hence the name.

I have no idea if he's right so take it for what's it worth but I'd have a hard time believing the Bionic wouldn't have a decent GPS.

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[darkmatter]

I guess my question would be...can it give me a location (grid) without any cell signal at all?

I notice the photon show stand alone and simultaneous.

 

[Renae]

Again, that page shows the name as xt865, we should probably wait to panic and/or rejoice until we know for sure what the specs are. We can't 100% trust this page since the model number is different.

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[sk102704]

I guess my question would be...can it give me a location (grid) without any cell signal at all?

I notice the photon show stand alone and simultaneous.

Hmm I don't know. I tried to look it up but I couldn't fund an answer to what the difference was.

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[therock]

A stand alone is not as good as an assisted. We use tracking GPS units that have SIM cards running cellular as well to assist the GPS. We can put these things under the center of a vehicle facing the pavement and be within feet of accuracy.

 

[sk102704]

A stand alone is not as good as an assisted. We use tracking GPS units that have SIM cards running cellular as well to assist the GPS. We can put these things under the center of a vehicle facing the pavement and be within feet of accuracy.

Are assisted GPS and simultaneous GPS the same thing?

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[darkmatter]

According to that page, all the devices have assisted gps. Its the lack of stand alone gps that concerns me.

 

[therock]

According to that page, all the devices have assisted gps. Its the lack of stand alone gps that concerns me.

Assisted GPS, generally abbreviated as A-GPS or aGPS, is a system which can, under certain conditions, improve the start up performance, or time-to-first-fix (TTFF) of a GPS satellite-based positioning system. It is used extensively with GPS-capable cellular phones as its development was accelerated by the U.S. FCC's 911 mandate making the location of a cell phone available to emergency call dispatchers.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS#cite_note-0

 

[Preach2k]

MOTODEV > Products > Compare Motorola Products

Bottom of the page, there is no stand alone gps for the Bionic. Not sure exactly what it means, but if its what I'm thinking that would put it in the un-buyable category for me. I work in the desert and mountains, often with very weak or no cell signal. I very much use the gps on my phone (its always faster than the Garmin they issue us)

Those are not the full specs that is why the Bionic was removed from the site. The only reason why it is still coming on your page is because of the cache. Do not believe it!!

 

[Bear in NM]

I did a little wiki research when I saw the spec sheet and in my mind it would have the gps radio still, but would share the antenna with the radio. Older type equates to a gps radio with its own antenna, the simultaneous spec looks to be a shared antenna. This would not concern me terribly if true, as Moto does know radios, gps and antennas. Just like it seems Samsung knows screens and cameras.

For a phone of this caliber, I cannot imagine the GPS would not work without a data connection. That would be huge step backwards. Still if this spec is what is actually released and published, I will not buy one until this is confirned

Craig

 

[therock]

As a private investigator we use GPS tracking units in some of our work. Believe me the "Assisted" or terms some others are using is an upgrade.
They are not going backwards. You want this.

The antenna's are not shared. The units we use combine a GPS unit and a GSM radio on channels 850/1900 (United States) 900/1800 (Europe, Australia, & Middle East).

This combination makes it almost impossible to loose a position due to lost signal because if one is not present the other is. As I posted before, we can place the unit anywhere on the vehicle, inside or out and still track it. The stand alone GPS units we used to use had to be placed with the antenna upward, not covered by metal to be anywhere near reliable. We have placed one of these units in a shrewd subjects spare tire inside his trunk and still tracked him.

I would be more troubled if the unit had a stand alone GPS.

 

[darkmatter]

All three listed on the site have assisted gps, so I'm not concerned about that. The photon is listed as having stand alone and simultaneous gps, so it doesn't seem the two are mutually exclusive.

I'm wondering if the bionic could pull coordinates in the mountains with zero cell signal as the droid can.

 

[therock]

I'm wondering if the bionic could pull coordinates in the mountains with zero cell signal as the droid can.

We are on the same page there. I live and die by navigation in my work. I have a dash mounted unit, and Microsoft Streets and Trips on my laptop with a USB GPS for backups. The Droid1 is my primary.

One of the first things I am going to test is what you said above and the charging rate while navigating with Google Maps. I have seen an HTC Sprint EVO 4G loose ground to the battery while connected to a car charger and navigating in 3G. It was not a fast problem but a problem enough to me.