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IPAd Vs 7 Year old tablet
- Thread starter garrett
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yea my mom has a tablet that she has had for a couple of years, about 4 or 5, and it completely obliterates the ipad in every stat imaginable, with the one exception being the ipad is thinner (but not by much). Everyone acts like a table is brand new technology, they've been around for a long time, and there are ones that are far better than the ipad.
I remember the big tablet push at the turn of the millenium but the technology wasn't quite ready IMO
But until the iPad I really have heard nothing about tablets since, so it's pretty funny to see that HP released in 2003, more like sad actually
I guess now I'm wondering why tablets haven't really improved in 7 years...
But until the iPad I really have heard nothing about tablets since, so it's pretty funny to see that HP released in 2003, more like sad actually
I guess now I'm wondering why tablets haven't really improved in 7 years...
KZIWarrior
Silver Member
ROFL... didn't even occur to me. I have an old(er) IBM Tablet and it blows away the iPad also... just shows how stupid Apple fanboys can be ("let me pay $$$ for 7+ year old technology")... Apple fails again (yet sadly so few people will/can see it for what it really is)...
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Matth3w
Guest
Um, no.
Hmmm....a fifth of the battery life....
Twice the weight...
Almost twice as thick....
Uh, what am I missing? The plug I use for my headphones on my iPad is a figment of my imagination?
I notice the article conveniently left those things out. I love in the dimension comparison there is no mention of the thickness, nor the weight. Don't let facts get in the way of your bashing though!
What else are we missing, let's see?
- 54g instead of N WiFi
- No 3G option
- Less RAM (another fun fact they left out in the comparison)
- No bluetooth
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Battery Life: Between 2 hours and 36 minutes and 2 hours and 43 minutes under normal use with with the backlighting and Wi FI on. [/FONT]
Hmmm....a fifth of the battery life....
Thankfully, HP didn't change the tablet's basic design: at 3.1 pounds,
Twice the weight...
The 3.1-pound, 10.8-by-8.3-by-0.8-inch
Almost twice as thick....
No headphone plug
Uh, what am I missing? The plug I use for my headphones on my iPad is a figment of my imagination?
I notice the article conveniently left those things out. I love in the dimension comparison there is no mention of the thickness, nor the weight. Don't let facts get in the way of your bashing though!
What else are we missing, let's see?
- 54g instead of N WiFi
- No 3G option
- Less RAM (another fun fact they left out in the comparison)
- No bluetooth
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I have about 2 dozen HP TC1100s sitting in a closet, which they have been since maybe 6-8 months after they were purchased, for around $2600, each.
The TC1100 was a turd. The screen sucked, wasn't anything like capacitive touch screens of today, had too little memory, too small of a battery, was too heavy, and trying to use Windows XP with HP's lame toolbars was an exercise in frustration. It just didn't work, at all.
I hate Steve Jobs, and don't like Apple in general, but an iPad is in a completely different league from a TC1100.
The TC1100 was a turd. The screen sucked, wasn't anything like capacitive touch screens of today, had too little memory, too small of a battery, was too heavy, and trying to use Windows XP with HP's lame toolbars was an exercise in frustration. It just didn't work, at all.
I hate Steve Jobs, and don't like Apple in general, but an iPad is in a completely different league from a TC1100.
The point I think is, tablets in this size have been around a long time. Of course the HP was thicker and heavier, didn't have N wifi or 3g or bluetooth 7 years ago, and RAM is cheap these days. HP's implemtation of the tablet sucked, so did their convertible laptops later on, but that was where technology was at time. Frankly, I think HP fails at everything they do except for the older LaserJet printers. But at least they tried, and it ran a boatload of applications, had lots of ports, etc.
Come on, Steve is a master salesman, he'll convince you his iPad is magical and revolutionary when it isn't, but you'll buy it anyway. But he couldn't come out on stage and say. hey, this is a remake of something old, it's better in some ways, and I'd like you to buy a few million. That doesn't really sell.
Come on, Steve is a master salesman, he'll convince you his iPad is magical and revolutionary when it isn't, but you'll buy it anyway. But he couldn't come out on stage and say. hey, this is a remake of something old, it's better in some ways, and I'd like you to buy a few million. That doesn't really sell.
The point I think is, tablets in this size have been around a long time. Of course the HP was thicker and heavier, didn't have N wifi or 3g or bluetooth 7 years ago, and RAM is cheap these days. HP's implemtation of the tablet sucked, so did their convertible laptops later on, but that was where technology was at time. Frankly, I think HP fails at everything they do except for the older LaserJet printers. But at least they tried, and it ran a boatload of applications, had lots of ports, etc.
Come on, Steve is a master salesman, he'll convince you his iPad is magical and revolutionary when it isn't, but you'll buy it anyway. But he couldn't come out on stage and say. hey, this is a remake of something old, it's better in some ways, and I'd like you to buy a few million. That doesn't really sell.
Exactly. The iPad is a glorified large iPhone, the larger version of something that has been around for almost 4 years....
I just dont see this as 7 years worth of technological advancement, it's just an amalgamation of SOME technology changes in a slick package. Talk to me when it can multitask, or when Steve Jobs opens it up to less restricted development
I'll never understand people's love for technology that is so restrictive.
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Matth3w
Guest
Ever hear of jailbreaking? That can open up both things that you just mentioned.
And whoever said it had to be 7 years of advancement? It's just a good device, and it's not just a bigger iPhone. Apps are completely different on the iPad most times, not to mention iBooks is not available for the iPhone/touch among other things.
And whoever said it had to be 7 years of advancement? It's just a good device, and it's not just a bigger iPhone. Apps are completely different on the iPad most times, not to mention iBooks is not available for the iPhone/touch among other things.
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Matth3w
Guest
So basically...the iPad is garbage and even though it sold over a million in the first few weeks..that's just because people are Apple fanboys and it doesn't mean there might, just might, be a good product there?The point I think is, tablets in this size have been around a long time. Of course the HP was thicker and heavier, didn't have N wifi or 3g or bluetooth 7 years ago, and RAM is cheap these days. HP's implemtation of the tablet sucked, so did their convertible laptops later on, but that was where technology was at time. Frankly, I think HP fails at everything they do except for the older LaserJet printers. But at least they tried, and it ran a boatload of applications, had lots of ports, etc.
Come on, Steve is a master salesman, he'll convince you his iPad is magical and revolutionary when it isn't, but you'll buy it anyway. But he couldn't come out on stage and say. hey, this is a remake of something old, it's better in some ways, and I'd like you to buy a few million. That doesn't really sell.
Sorry but a fanbase doesn't sell 50-100 million in equipment, apps, and upgrades in the first month. If it was a crap product, you'd hear about it. Instead, all you get are these BS comparisons like you see in this thread.
Most people can't even say for sure what the iPad is like, because you don't even own one. Talk about passing judgment before you know what the **** you're talking about.
Ever hear of jailbreaking? That can open up both things that you just mentioned.
Exactly. You have to hack the device to make it do something it should do out of the box. Why does Apple and Steve Jobs get a free pass for something like this?
If a dealership sold you a new car, and said you'd have to install a new component in it to make the radio and AC work at the same time (which, oh, by the way, voids the warranty), you'd blow your lid.
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Matth3w
Guest
For one, I think it's funny that you're whining about this when 50% or more of the stuff here in this forum is about hacking the Droid to get it to do what we want it to do. Quite funny. Apple doesn't get a pass from me. I am still not a huge Apple fan, but that doesn't mean I have to hate the Droid. I don't really care for Mercedes as a general whole, but that doesn't mean they can't make a nice product that I would like.Ever hear of jailbreaking? That can open up both things that you just mentioned.
Exactly. You have to hack the device to make it do something it should do out of the box. Why does Apple and Steve Jobs get a free pass for something like this?
If a dealership sold you a new car, and said you'd have to install a new component in it to make the radio and AC work at the same time (which, oh, by the way, voids the warranty), you'd blow your lid.
I am also paying about 40-50 times as much for my cars as I am the iPad so that's not the best comparison.
For one, I think it's funny that you're whining about this when 50% or more of the stuff here in this forum is about hacking the Droid to get it to do what we want it to do. Quite funny. Apple doesn't get a pass from me. I am still not a huge Apple fan, but that doesn't mean I have to hate the Droid. I don't really care for Mercedes as a general whole, but that doesn't mean they can't make a nice product that I would like.
I am also paying about 40-50 times as much for my cars as I am the iPad so that's not the best comparison.
I dont recall the definition of "whining" to be "a well stated argument". I guess I'm using a different dictionary.
I never said you had to hate anything, but I have a big problem with the restrictions placed on technology by their developers. My Droid can multitask, and I can develop for it freely without needing to hack it. I hack it because I want to, not because I need functionality that should have been there in the first place.
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Matth3w
Guest
So don't buy it. Problem solved.
The Droid can multitask, and it's slow as ****, even overclocked, compared to any of the major iDevices. And I still love my Droid, but that's a fact.
I'll take no multitasking and smoother interface for 1000, Alex.
What is the big deal in taking 5 seconds to jailbreak the iPad and install Backgrounder for multitasking if it's so damn important? Or are you just stomping your feet and pouting?
And what is your argument going to be in a few months when OS 4.0 comes out with multitasking?
Come up with something new, the multitasking and Flash arguments are boring, old, and repetitive, not to mention pointless.
There are plenty of restrictive things about the phone you and I both have...and they have similar problems on the iDevices. You can't delete the pre-installed crappy apps without hacking it. At least with the iDevices with real memory the megabytes are irrelevant. But with the Droid you have to micromanage your megabytes like you're using a x486 computer from the early 90s. I had a Packard Bell my freshman year of high school in 96 or so with more internal memory than the Droid. You can't use it without a GMail account and the POP3 support is sketchy at best. You can't, no matter what you do, get support for certain languages, rendering it impossible to view certain sites. It doesn't even have a profiles setting for volume controls, and you can't even adjust individual volumes with most apps, let alone the stock phone. You can't install apps to the SD card, instead you have to put them on some miniscule amount of space that was outdated 5-7 years ago. Should I keep going? Where is your fury at Moto and Google? How about Exchange support between the devices?
The Droid can multitask, and it's slow as ****, even overclocked, compared to any of the major iDevices. And I still love my Droid, but that's a fact.
I'll take no multitasking and smoother interface for 1000, Alex.
What is the big deal in taking 5 seconds to jailbreak the iPad and install Backgrounder for multitasking if it's so damn important? Or are you just stomping your feet and pouting?
And what is your argument going to be in a few months when OS 4.0 comes out with multitasking?
Come up with something new, the multitasking and Flash arguments are boring, old, and repetitive, not to mention pointless.
There are plenty of restrictive things about the phone you and I both have...and they have similar problems on the iDevices. You can't delete the pre-installed crappy apps without hacking it. At least with the iDevices with real memory the megabytes are irrelevant. But with the Droid you have to micromanage your megabytes like you're using a x486 computer from the early 90s. I had a Packard Bell my freshman year of high school in 96 or so with more internal memory than the Droid. You can't use it without a GMail account and the POP3 support is sketchy at best. You can't, no matter what you do, get support for certain languages, rendering it impossible to view certain sites. It doesn't even have a profiles setting for volume controls, and you can't even adjust individual volumes with most apps, let alone the stock phone. You can't install apps to the SD card, instead you have to put them on some miniscule amount of space that was outdated 5-7 years ago. Should I keep going? Where is your fury at Moto and Google? How about Exchange support between the devices?
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How do you know I don't own one? Yeah, talk about passing judgment.So basically...the iPad is garbage and even though it sold over a million in the first few weeks..that's just because people are Apple fanboys and it doesn't mean there might, just might, be a good product there?The point I think is, tablets in this size have been around a long time. Of course the HP was thicker and heavier, didn't have N wifi or 3g or bluetooth 7 years ago, and RAM is cheap these days. HP's implemtation of the tablet sucked, so did their convertible laptops later on, but that was where technology was at time. Frankly, I think HP fails at everything they do except for the older LaserJet printers. But at least they tried, and it ran a boatload of applications, had lots of ports, etc.
Come on, Steve is a master salesman, he'll convince you his iPad is magical and revolutionary when it isn't, but you'll buy it anyway. But he couldn't come out on stage and say. hey, this is a remake of something old, it's better in some ways, and I'd like you to buy a few million. That doesn't really sell.
Sorry but a fanbase doesn't sell 50-100 million in equipment, apps, and upgrades in the first month. If it was a crap product, you'd hear about it. Instead, all you get are these BS comparisons like you see in this thread.
Most people can't even say for sure what the iPad is like, because you don't even own one. Talk about passing judgment before you know what the **** you're talking about.
The Apple Newton was crap too, but Steve said it was the best thing since sliced bread so they sold a lot. Just my opinion of course but I think the iPad will go the same way.
I do however think, that tablets of some form or another will be the future. I just don't think it will be an Apple tablet. Just saying... Steve is very controlling, has to lock down hardware and software and that is not the future. He only hurts his company but he is adamant and has loyal followers so it'll continue for now but not long term.
I'm glad you enjoy your iPad, don't need to be so defensive about it. If it's magical and everything you dreamed a tablet could be, then good, enjoy it and have fun.