I'll not be buying gas from BP ever again.

[pc747]

pilot, I'm not sure if we're speaking in the same direction or not, but I couldn't agree with you more on unity.

My point was more along the lines of this thought process...

Unfortunately, real change typically only occurs when "the majority" is directly affected by whatever situation. 9/11 is a perfect example. The days and weeks after 9/11, this country was more united than it had been since WWII. The American flag was everywhere. But, for a majority of the country, life went on as expected. Soon, people forgot, and the unity was lost, and the bickering began.

On the other side of the coin, look at our parents/grandparents' (depending on your age!) generation. The Great Depression... affected essentially everybody in some way shape or form, and that generation is still, to this day, extremely frugal. We have clients (I'm a financial planner) worth millions that still worry about a few dollars extra here or there - and I mean really worry.

My point is that human nature is to be a little bit fickle and to base our opinions and views solely on our experiences, rather than critical thinking and mature/unifying discussion. It's unfortunate, but it seems, historically, that it takes an event or situation of drastic proportion to truly change the way "the majority" thinks and acts.

We are on the same page

Boo hoo hoo. I'll buy gas from whatever station is selling it the cheapest. Boycotting a company is not going to prevent another accident. Are you still boycotting Exxon over the Valdez spill? Ford or Firestone for the tire blowouts 10 years ago? Wal-Mart and Nike for using sweatshops in the past? The list could go on forever. (I know these examples are on a different scale as the current event but the point remains)

Pretty soon you're gonna be riding a bicycle to work, or walking, barefoot because of boycotting companies over scandals or accidents

I'm sure HP may have done some shoddy things in the past but I still bought their computer because I like the product.

You have a point, not on the boo hooing but that it would be hard to boycott a major corporation. You would have to find out what other companies they have their hands in. For example BP also owns castrol, am/pm, a coffee shop, and the sandwiches in a lot of the convenient stores. If you boycott a bp gas station you are only hurting the family that is a franchise owner, the owner feels the sledge hammer and bp feels a pluck.

Boo hoo hoo. I'll buy gas from whatever station is selling it the cheapest. Boycotting a company is not going to prevent another accident. Are you still boycotting Exxon over the Valdez spill? Ford or Firestone for the tire blowouts 10 years ago? Wal-Mart and Nike for using sweatshops in the past? The list could go on forever. (I know these examples are on a different scale as the current event but the point remains)

Pretty soon you're gonna be riding a bicycle to work, or walking, barefoot because of boycotting companies over scandals or accidents

I'm sure HP may have done some shoddy things in the past but I still bought their computer because I like the product.

Isn't that the point, people don't care enough to make a difference, so things like this happen again, and again, and again.

When you have and know people that live in the area that it is affecting you don't look at this as a "Boo hoo hoo" event. Boycotting would work if EVERYONE did it...but that will never happen.

my views in red, but to continue what I am saying, major corporations are hard to boycott because they are so big that they have their hands in many companies. If you look at all the companies they help in one way or another, you may soon find out that in order to truly boycott all support for bp, you may have to boycott your own job.
My company goes through jet fuel like crazy. The airline industry took a BIG hit from the fuel crisis. The reason why they are nickel and diming you for every thing is because if they dont they would not survive. Airlines are one day from bankruptcy where they have to fly to stay a float. We had two big crisis, 9/11 and the fuel crisis back to back. A company like mine (lets just say they relied on bp for fuel) could not afford to just stop using bps fuel with out cutting jobs, passing more fees to the customer, or going under. THe point is we are so reliant on energy. We need it to power the computers, fax machines, trucks that deliver supplies, goods and food, it powers all the facilties that employ billions.
It is a sticky situation. Its easy to boycott tyson chicken, just stop buying it. But to truly boycott an energy source is easier said then done. What you going to quit your job, no you cant because irony is a b....., you lose your job, benefits, seniority and go to a less paying job who use more of bps energy. But you have no choice now its the only place hiring.
So what can we do, we can unite and tell each side to stop the bickering and ensure that regulations do not get overlooked again. But that will only last until it gets inconvenient.
I think we serve better by finding a solution the boycotting because it is impossible to do. But I do not think we can ignore the livelihoods affected by the accident. This economy depend on every one. Fishers dont fish then we dont get fish, that causes problems for restaurants, which effects tourist, which effect people traveling, and pumping money into the economy.
But we will recover, hopefully we learn from this and not allow this to happen 30 years later.

 

[pc747]

:icon_evil: Seems as BP in no rush to clean it up because they are trying to skim the oil off the top of the ocean so they can reprocess it. So it seems as if people can not go to the beach, fish, or make a living because they tryna still get paid. I know violence is not something that should be promoted but seeing that ceo say that made me want to ....
I think BP's ceo just surpassed Steve Jobs as CEO's I wish would never be allowed to speak to the public (I actually had another category but this is a family oriented forum)
I so hope every dead oil soaked fish and shrimp get served up and fed to him.

:work3:

 

[SpykeZ]

Director James Cameron says BP turned down help offer - Yahoo! News

 

[FXRS]

Seem to be a lot of "arm chair" engineers on this forums.

 

[SpykeZ]

RIP guys

Source: Caught in the oil - The Big Picture - Boston.com

 

[cnul8rguys]

the sad part is that my stock broker called me earlier today and wanted me to shift over $20,000 of my stocks over to BP because they were so low earlier today and was more interested in make the quick money.
Regardless of how much money you COULD potentially make from this situation, the shear fact that all of this wildlife and beautiful environment are ruined is one of the saddest things I've ever witnessed. Especially for them to come out and say it might not be until August before they can stop the leak....

Absolutely disgusting!!! I hope BP goes completely bankrupt from all of this and I hope all of the executives get charges pressed upon them from the EPA when this is all said and done...

 

[ricepuddin]

BP Station Sign Is Beyond Irony

 

[SpykeZ]

to lighten up the mood lol

 

[MiXoLoGiSt]

I wont be buying from BP. I dont use Arco gas or Castrol oil so im all good.

Only gas i buy is 76 or Chevron and i do oil changes at the dealership and they don't use Castrol

 

[rod]

just so you guys know, its been a very depressing few weeks down here. our parish's single largest taxpayer, a shipyard, has regretfully flirted with the idea of having to release 60% of its workforce. 96,000 jobs could be directly impacted in our parish alone. with a 2008 population of just over 108,000, id say thats pretty significant.

the locals around here are frustrated. the people who live off of the water are furious. the people in the oil industry are devastated, worried that their jobs will soon be leaving them. and no one around here has forgotten about the men who died on the rig.

just one point of frustration that ive heard today is this. why wasnt a plan in place to cut the line beneath the rig while it was still burning and before it sunk? that way there would be a sheared pipe at a much more manageable depth which could easily have been capped or reattached to another pipe and siphoned to the surface to waiting vessels. instead, they let the rig burn, sink and take the line with it to the bottom. its utter stupidity and irresponsibility that there were no safeguards in place in case a disaster like this happened.

God help us all.

 

[mcsinfl]

Here's a novel idea, how about requiring any ocean wells to have relief wells drilled and in place before the main well is even put into production

 

[Dejuanxg]

Ok someone might hate me after saying this but I don't care.

First off ask yourself do you think BP busted the pipe just to spill oil?


Answer no it was a accident dumbasses plans go wrong sometimes **** happens and guess what this hapoens to be one of thise times.

I'm 100% sure they are doing everything they can to fix this so stop with the "I'm nevrr buying from BP crap already no one really cares because somebody will.

And no disrespect to anyone or anyones family that died in thia tragic accident.

 

[SpykeZ]

Ok someone might hate me after saying this but I don't care.

First off ask yourself do you think BP busted the pipe just to spill oil?


Answer no it was a accident dumbasses plans go wrong sometimes **** happens and guess what this hapoens to be one of thise times.

I'm 100% sure they are doing everything they can to fix this so stop with the "I'm nevrr buying from BP crap already no one really cares because somebody will.

And no disrespect to anyone or anyones family that died in thia tragic accident.

Did you really have to come in and start insulting with immature language? Good job.

And it may have been an accident, but guess what, they failed to fix the busted up rig that had it's fail safe procedures in non working condition, guess what, they obviously didn't have a plan in CASE of something like this would happen which should be a requirement. So before you come in here insulting people like a child, why don't you put your head on straight first.

just so you guys know, its been a very depressing few weeks down here. our parish's single largest taxpayer, a shipyard, has regretfully flirted with the idea of having to release 60% of its workforce. 96,000 jobs could be directly impacted in our parish alone. with a 2008 population of just over 108,000, id say thats pretty significant.

the locals around here are frustrated. the people who live off of the water are furious. the people in the oil industry are devastated, worried that their jobs will soon be leaving them. and no one around here has forgotten about the men who died on the rig.

just one point of frustration that ive heard today is this. why wasnt a plan in place to cut the line beneath the rig while it was still burning and before it sunk? that way there would be a sheared pipe at a much more manageable depth which could easily have been capped or reattached to another pipe and siphoned to the surface to waiting vessels. instead, they let the rig burn, sink and take the line with it to the bottom. its utter stupidity and irresponsibility that there were no safeguards in place in case a disaster like this happened.

God help us all.

My heart goes out to you guys, hope your luck turns around.

 

[jntdroid]

As I was reading that, it totally felt like the movie Talladega Nights, where they make the comment that you can say ANYthing after you say "With all due respect..." and it's ok because you said "with all due respect." That rant felt like that... it was all "bla bla angry accident dumbasses"... and then all of a sudden "oh but no disrespect to the families of the men that died."

But maybe I read too much into the "tone"... if such a thing even exists in type.

 

[MiXoLoGiSt]

Director James Cameron says BP turned down help offer - Yahoo! News

Thats because BP doesnt want to fix it. They see this as a means to make more money.