droidfreak
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Is there anything to do to improve the Camera quality? I see posts on this but still confused. Any market app's or setting changes? This is something that amazes me to be so poor on such an otherwise great phone. Thanks.
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not really... probably will have to wait for a firmware update or do it yourself. i know it can be improved via software since google goggles seems to take crisper pictures in the dark then the standard photo app.
but in my opinion the camera is great. 100x better then my g1. im not complaining a bit.
but im not going to spit at a quality improvement
but in my opinion the camera is great. 100x better then my g1. im not complaining a bit.
but im not going to spit at a quality improvement
Martin030908
Super Moderator
the apps for the camera can improve speed and function of the camera (photo editing and what not) but not improve camera picture quality.
Like Martin said...I have a couple of apps that do help with speed and make editing easier, but you will not improve what is already in place. I also believe the camera sucks in lower light situations. For them to commercially brag about a 5mp camera and then put this out is kind of upsetting. Some have said that you should not expect to take great pictures with a cell phone and I compeletely agree, I just want it to be on par with many other phones. In daylight...it is. Lower light or indoors...not even close.
My old blackberry storms 3.2mp camera took 100x more crisper pictures than our droids,hell my old palm centro 's 1.3 mp camera took better pics than the droid haha but oh well what can you do .....I still love my droid..
Martin030908
Super Moderator
in really low light my Droid has left something to be desired for clarity with pictures but with even a little light, or normal light... the Droid's clarity for me has been way better than my Storm's. As the consensus has said over and over... the Droid camera struggles in low light.
Sadly, one of the main reasons I grabbed a Droid was because of the camera. I have taken maybe 30 pics so far and 3 have come out amazing! The rest of them are grainy and worthless. It has to be something they can fix. I really need the camera to work well.
I just did some stone facing on a gas insert fireplace. I took 10 pics of it and none came out right. I go outside and take a pic of some pebbles in the home owners garden and it looked better than my real digi cam could have done. It is the only thing about the Droid that makes me unhappy. Otherwise, best device I could have imagined!
I just did some stone facing on a gas insert fireplace. I took 10 pics of it and none came out right. I go outside and take a pic of some pebbles in the home owners garden and it looked better than my real digi cam could have done. It is the only thing about the Droid that makes me unhappy. Otherwise, best device I could have imagined!
sillyrabbitt123
Member
agreed the camera is worthless for point and shot no brainer shots they dont all come out. if your good with photography etc.. maybe you can tweak it and get better shots then bad ones. but again for no nothings that want to point and shoot 
i have found for me pro camera zoom 5x takes better shots then stock.
i have found for me pro camera zoom 5x takes better shots then stock.
jigsawkilr
Member
This thing has a camera? WOW. I guess that shows how much I have used it. I think I may have taken 2 pics with it since launch. Ohh well.
Martin030908
Super Moderator
at least the speed has improved a little since the 2.0.1 update... hopefully we'll see some more advancement with the update in Jan.
daylight photos are fine and digital image stabilization makes for crisp photos, but dont even bother taking a picture at night. it looks like a 300kpixel camera with the flash off ( i have to turn the flash off because it is so bright that it bleaches out whomever is your focus in the picture and still leaves the background grainy anyway. I was really disappointed in the quality of the droid's camera. I thought my tmobile dash and at&t tilt both had better image quality. I'd go as far to say that the camera is my only complaint about the droid. I didn't notice if any firmware improvements that are camera related are expected in the 2.2 update, so don't hold your breath for a better camera.
If i'm not mistaken, someone in this forum posted a way to get higher quality video out of the camera with a hack. Maybe there is a similar hack for still images
If i'm not mistaken, someone in this forum posted a way to get higher quality video out of the camera with a hack. Maybe there is a similar hack for still images
There has to be a way to improve the quality via software. If it can take decent pictures with full sun light then the hardware is capable of taking great pics at night too.
In digital photography you have a lense, a sensor and a light gathering device. Light hits the lense and is focused via moving the lense closer or fartehr from the sensor. The amount of light is controlled by opening or closeing the hole that the light passes through before hitting the sesnor. The more open, the more light...but the shallower the depth of field. Shallow depth of field means things not directly in focus (in front of and behind the subject) will appear blurry. Deep depth of field (small hole) allows everyting in front of and behind to appear in focus. In order to make the auto focus work better the programmer will make the hole small...which means less light gets through.
So in order to keep your pictures more in focus, you give up light. There are a couple ways to solve this probelm that is introduced by solving another problem. One...you digitally correct what the senor thinks it sees. When you digitally correct lack of light you introduce what photographers refer to as noise. We amatuers call it grainyness. The grains you see is where the software thinks a pixel should be a certian color based on looking at the pixles around it and averaging the color wheel. This is referred to as ISO settings. A low ISO setting is used when you have a lot of light and a high ISO setting is used in low light. Some software does this very well. My Nikon D5000 does a fantasic job in low light (ISO Settings around 18000 look almost noiseless). Some software does a crappy job (Droid).
The other way to correct is the use of a flash. The Droid has an led that stays lit...it is not a flash. A flash works in conjunction with the shutter (which our droids do not have). But there are several apps on the market that do all sorts of weird things with the LED so it makes me think if someone really knew what they were doing they could create a better flash app for the camera. LEDs do not put out the kind of light that camera sensors like for good looking photos...they tend to be on the blue side of the spectrum. But we can control the color of the led so could someone come up with an app that uses very white or orange spectrum light to simulate sun light or phosphate light?
So there are two software sides of things that could be worked on. ISO processing that does a better job of averaging the pixels to fix errors with less grainyness or fix the flash led.
For me...I just use my SB900 on my D5000 with two SB600s connected wirelessly as fill lights and get awesome digital pictures when I need them. Or when I am trying to get a candid shot when I am unprepared I don't expect much from my Droid. LOL
Nate
In digital photography you have a lense, a sensor and a light gathering device. Light hits the lense and is focused via moving the lense closer or fartehr from the sensor. The amount of light is controlled by opening or closeing the hole that the light passes through before hitting the sesnor. The more open, the more light...but the shallower the depth of field. Shallow depth of field means things not directly in focus (in front of and behind the subject) will appear blurry. Deep depth of field (small hole) allows everyting in front of and behind to appear in focus. In order to make the auto focus work better the programmer will make the hole small...which means less light gets through.
So in order to keep your pictures more in focus, you give up light. There are a couple ways to solve this probelm that is introduced by solving another problem. One...you digitally correct what the senor thinks it sees. When you digitally correct lack of light you introduce what photographers refer to as noise. We amatuers call it grainyness. The grains you see is where the software thinks a pixel should be a certian color based on looking at the pixles around it and averaging the color wheel. This is referred to as ISO settings. A low ISO setting is used when you have a lot of light and a high ISO setting is used in low light. Some software does this very well. My Nikon D5000 does a fantasic job in low light (ISO Settings around 18000 look almost noiseless). Some software does a crappy job (Droid).
The other way to correct is the use of a flash. The Droid has an led that stays lit...it is not a flash. A flash works in conjunction with the shutter (which our droids do not have). But there are several apps on the market that do all sorts of weird things with the LED so it makes me think if someone really knew what they were doing they could create a better flash app for the camera. LEDs do not put out the kind of light that camera sensors like for good looking photos...they tend to be on the blue side of the spectrum. But we can control the color of the led so could someone come up with an app that uses very white or orange spectrum light to simulate sun light or phosphate light?
So there are two software sides of things that could be worked on. ISO processing that does a better job of averaging the pixels to fix errors with less grainyness or fix the flash led.
For me...I just use my SB900 on my D5000 with two SB600s connected wirelessly as fill lights and get awesome digital pictures when I need them. Or when I am trying to get a candid shot when I am unprepared I don't expect much from my Droid. LOL
Nate