Are you kidding?

[jroc]

^Will any phone released this year feel 2 generations ahead of the Atrix?

Unless something real magical is coming out between now and Dec 31, 2011, I dont think so.

I think its some out of this world expectations by some folks for these phones. I also feel change a few specs here n there and the Atrix is the Photon is the Bionic is the DX2 is the Droid 3, in no particular order. I dont thinks thats a bad thing, it is what it is, thats all.

 

[portermac]

These phone companies aren't going to put everything they can into these phones. They are trying to make money and they will do just like the computer world does. A little new technology at a time. I think the bionic has more than I expected.
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[jntdroid]

This is complete misinformation. The original Bionic (the Etna) was VZW's version of the Atrix. The new Targa is completely different. The only similiarity is that they are both built by Moto.

It's not complete misinformation and it's not completely different - it's slightly different. I didn't feel there was a need to repeat the fact that the Bionic is the Targa, not Etna.

How can you say they're completely different when you look at the specs, form factor, etc? There is a far greater number of similarities than differences. If the Etna was the Atrix for VZW, then the Targa sure isn't much of an upgrade from the Etna - which may be why they ditched Etna in the first place.

Lets see the differences...

• Camera - more megapixels - "meh" unless you're printing out massive photos for billboards and what not...
• Processor - omap vs. tegra - appears this will be a legitimately positive change
• Screen - larger screen, but same resolution and same pentile pixel mgmt... meh again
• 4G/LTE - true LTE radio vs. the Atrix on AT&T's pseudo-LTE... though this is more a carrier limitation issue
• 1080p vs 720p video capturing? I think that's different vs. the Atrix and maybe Etna... HD video recording as a whole on these phones is kind of gimmicky b/c it can't come anywhere near HD video recording on a real camera, and can't write to the SD card smooth enough to avoid choppiness - though dual core does improve on that somewhat, finally
• Form factor - yes the Bionic is bigger, and the Photon has the jagged edge, but as far as Moto phones go, they're in the same family easily - the iphone-esque shape

I really don't know what else... unless I'm missing something, that makes the Bionic nothing more than a souped up Atrix, which is all I was saying in the first place.

 

[jntdroid]

I also feel change a few specs here n there and the Atrix is the Photon is the Bionic is the DX2 is the Droid 3, in no particular order. I dont thinks thats a bad thing, it is what it is, thats all.

Exactly - throw some RAM in the D3, and it's the Bionic in a different case without a 4G radio.

 

[Liderc]

GSII with LTE and a 4.5'' screen would be 2 generations ahead of the Atrix and Tmobile is releasing it later this month.

 

[Xerrus]

GSII with LTE and a 4.5'' screen would be 2 generations ahead of the Atrix and Tmobile is releasing it later this month.

+1

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[brad92]

GSII with LTE and a 4.5'' screen would be 2 generations ahead of the Atrix and Tmobile is releasing it later this month.

I hope it comes to VZ

MIUI

 

[bplewis24]

This is complete misinformation. The original Bionic (the Etna) was VZW's version of the Atrix. The new Targa is completely different. The only similiarity is that they are both built by Moto.

It's not complete misinformation and it's not completely different - it's slightly different. I didn't feel there was a need to repeat the fact that the Bionic is the Targa, not Etna.

How can you say they're completely different when you look at the specs, form factor, etc? There is a far greater number of similarities than differences. If the Etna was the Atrix for VZW, then the Targa sure isn't much of an upgrade from the Etna - which may be why they ditched Etna in the first place.

Lets see the differences...

• Camera - more megapixels - "meh" unless you're printing out massive photos for billboards and what not...
• Processor - omap vs. tegra - appears this will be a legitimately positive change
• Screen - larger screen, but same resolution and same pentile pixel mgmt... meh again
• 4G/LTE - true LTE radio vs. the Atrix on AT&T's pseudo-LTE... though this is more a carrier limitation issue
• 1080p vs 720p video capturing? I think that's different vs. the Atrix and maybe Etna... HD video recording as a whole on these phones is kind of gimmicky b/c it can't come anywhere near HD video recording on a real camera, and can't write to the SD card smooth enough to avoid choppiness - though dual core does improve on that somewhat, finally
• Form factor - yes the Bionic is bigger, and the Photon has the jagged edge, but as far as Moto phones go, they're in the same family easily - the iphone-esque shape

I really don't know what else... unless I'm missing something, that makes the Bionic nothing more than a souped up Atrix, which is all I was saying in the first place.

I love how you claim it was only a "slightly" better version of the Atrix, go on to break down how it's different very significant ways, but claim that all of those ways are only "meh."

Right, it's not an Atrix at all and thanks for illustrating that.

GSII with LTE and a 4.5'' screen would be 2 generations ahead of the Atrix and Tmobile is releasing it later this month.

TMobile is releasing no such thing later this month. They don't even have an LTE network, and the phone you're likely referring to is a GSM version headed to Europe...and who knows when it will release?

But what I do find hilarious is that the GSII (which benchmarks similarly with current top-end phones) with LTE would be "2 generations" ahead of the Atrix, but the Bionic with LTE would not be.

You guys never cease to amaze me with the misinformation, FUD and subjective and selective criticisms of a phone that isn't even released yet and completely ignores all relevant factual information that we do have.

Brandon

 

[AdamPA1006]

I'm very dissapointed the screen is not 4.5. After playing with my friends Samsung Infuse, That thing is just incredible. It is so thin, and screen so big, I just can't believe Verizon has nothing to match it. I'm really thinking about switching to AT&T for that, 4.5 inch screen is awesome and exactly what I want. My GF didnt like it and said it was way too big though. Do guys think a lot of people are actually turned off by a 4.5 in screen? I feel like it would attract way more than it pushes away

 

[Liderc]

GSII with LTE and a 4.5'' screen would be 2 generations ahead of the Atrix and Tmobile is releasing it later this month.

TMobile is releasing no such thing later this month. They don't even have an LTE network, and the phone you're likely referring to is a GSM version headed to Europe...and who knows when it will release?

But what I do find hilarious is that the GSII (which benchmarks similarly with current top-end phones) with LTE would be "2 generations" ahead of the Atrix, but the Bionic with LTE would not be.

You guys never cease to amaze me with the misinformation, FUD and subjective and selective criticisms of a phone that isn't even released yet and completely ignores all relevant factual information that we do have.

Brandon

Might want to take a look at this: T-Mobile Hercules Confirmed as Galaxy S II Series Handset › AndroidGuys

And did you just say the GSII benchmarks similarly as other top end phones? It's ahead of all top end phones right now and it's been out for 3 months.

 

[jntdroid]

I love how you claim it was only a "slightly" better version of the Atrix, go on to break down how it's different very significant ways, but claim that all of those ways are only "meh."

Right, it's not an Atrix at all and thanks for illustrating that.

This started as me defending my claim against a guy a few posts back that said my comparisons were "complete misinformation" and that the phones were "completely different". I never said the omap difference was "meh" - I said it was a good change. I said "meh" to the megapixel and hd video differences. Last I checked, those aren't big improvements when pics/vids are never up to par on these devices anyway, compared to a real camera anyway. So if it makes you feel better, maybe I'll say, it's an Atrix with a few relatively meaningless spec improvements and a better processor.

You guys never cease to amaze me with the misinformation, FUD and subjective and selective criticisms of a phone that isn't even released yet and completely ignores all relevant factual information that we do have.

Don't know if you were including the Bionic stuff in here or just the SGSII comments, but that's what I've been trying to do this entire thread. The Bionic over-hype is crazy, and the criticism that it's not something better than it is founded in the over-hype and mis-information. That's the whole premise for me stating that it's nothing more than a slightly improved Atrix... to try and balance out the over-hype.

 

[portermac]

it does look like an incredible phone, especially the one droid life showed todayand if it was coming to verizon in the next month I would get it over the bionic. But, I don't think verizon will get a gs2 like this till next year. They might get a 3g with some slide out keyboard. I just don't think w will be that lucky and I'm not gonna wait to find out. The bionic is plenty good for me.Sent from my Droid using DroidForums

 

[Arkbird]

Both GSII and Bionic hype is ridiculous. This is the Bionic forum so why don't we just stick to the Bionic here? The comparisons are getting ridiculously old. Especially since neither the Bionic, or the US counterpart for the GSII is out. How about we make the comparisons when both phones are out???? :icon_ nono2:

 

[jroc]

GSII with LTE and a 4.5'' screen would be 2 generations ahead of the Atrix and Tmobile is releasing it later this month.

TMobile is releasing no such thing later this month. They don't even have an LTE network, and the phone you're likely referring to is a GSM version headed to Europe...and who knows when it will release?

But what I do find hilarious is that the GSII (which benchmarks similarly with current top-end phones) with LTE would be "2 generations" ahead of the Atrix, but the Bionic with LTE would not be.

You guys never cease to amaze me with the misinformation, FUD and subjective and selective criticisms of a phone that isn't even released yet and completely ignores all relevant factual information that we do have.

Brandon

Might want to take a look at this: T-Mobile Hercules Confirmed as Galaxy S II Series Handset › AndroidGuys

And did you just say the GSII benchmarks similarly as other top end phones? It's ahead of all top end phones right now and it's been out for 3 months.

But by how much? Some folks make it like its completely destroying everything else....its not. Its not even destroying the Droid 3, which says alot about the OMAP 4. Before the bump up in cpu speed it was actually losing some bench marks to the LG 3D. A higher cpu speed and probably finalized software and it might be better now, dont really know.

But its not so far ahead ahead of everyhting else thats its 2 generations ahead..

But what I do find hilarious is that the GSII (which benchmarks similarly with current top-end phones) with LTE would be "2 generations" ahead of the Atrix, but the Bionic with LTE would not be.

You guys never cease to amaze me with the misinformation, FUD and subjective and selective criticisms of a phone that isn't even released yet and completely ignores all relevant factual information that we do have.

Brandon

Exactly...

I seriously fail to see what puts it so far ahead of everything else.

 

[brad92]

Tons of Moto fanboys in here. The Bionic's specs aren't that impressive to have waited this long. I agree with the person who said its a D3 with more ram and LTE. This phone is definitely not a gamechanger, rather a D3 with "bolt-ons."

With the Vigor definitely on the horizon, and the Bionic still not out yet, I don't see what the hype is about the Bionic anymore.

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