see above. i'd rather do a 3rd party vendor if I know I'm not leaving Red for that discount. I was about to get my DInc2 at a 3rd party vendor that had it for under $50, while VZW was selling it for $150. I contacted our corporate rep, who after confirming, matched that price, so I bought direct from VZW. I know I'm not leaving them, so a 3rd party's ETF doesn't scare me.
Another point is that if you don't like the phone, you have to return it to the 3rd party vendor if you don't want it, not VZW. You can still take it to VZW for warranty work, even if they say otherwise.