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Motorola Shadow
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Hey ck do we know any info on wether this is the droid 2 or just the shadow and if not do we know anything about the Droid 2?
It's the Xtreme aka the "Shadow".....
As far as the Droid 2 goes read up on this thread. Other than it will be releasing around the same time as the Xtreme/Shadow there's not much more info than whats on the thread below.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-general-discussions/41806-official-droid-2-pre-release-thread.html
Hey ck do we know any info on wether this is the droid 2 or just the shadow and if not do we know anything about the Droid 2?
It's the Xtreme aka the "Shadow".....
As far as the Droid 2 goes read up on this thread. Other than it will be releasing around the same time as the Xtreme/Shadow there's not much more info than whats on the thread below.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-general-discussions/41806-official-droid-2-pre-release-thread.html
Thanks this should help me
silentbob343
Member
It's 600mhz vs 1ghz, which is good at showing the architecture scales well with die shrinks, but if you clock a 3430 to 1ghz you'd probably get similar performance. Although, not in the same power/heat envelope.Comparison video between the OMAP 3430 and 3630 chipsets :
YouTube - Texas Instruments 65nm OMAP3430 vs 45nm OMAP3630!
80% improvement in framerates!
I believe we'll see a 3640@720mhz in the Shadow which while still a good jump in performance I think 2.2 on the old droid will keep me happy until and handset with dual core ARM-9 is available.
Darkseider
Senior Member
Cortex A9 drool. OMAP 4640's make me happy in the pants.
silentbob343
Member
hah just saw I posted what you did earlier in the read. Guess I should have read it all the way through before I responded.Cortex A9 drool. OMAP 4640's make me happy in the pants.
Comparison video between the OMAP 3430 and 3630 chipsets :
YouTube - Texas Instruments 65nm OMAP3430 vs 45nm OMAP3630!
80% improvement in framerates!
I saw that video and also linked the 3D gears .apk that was used. I also contacted the gentleman responsible for bringing GLX gears to the Android which was used in that video. Turns out that after speaking with him that the devices used in those tests were no locked to V-Sync. Which in english means they ran balls out. They were also running at stock speeds. IF the OMAP 3430 in the video were OC'd to run at the same speed as the OMAP 3630 the framerates would have been very comparable. The biggest bonus the OMAP 3630 will offer is power savings over the current 3430 in the Droid due to its' smaller manufacturing process and newer power savings schemes. Otherwise the base performance will be nearly identical to an equally clocked 3430.
Another note is that they also use the same GPU. So there will be little to any difference in performance there as well. The big difference will be the HD recording and HDMI out which is supported by the OMAP 3630 SoC.
Darkseider
Senior Member
How does this news strike ya all?
Motorola to launch two smartphones on Verizon in July, says WSJ -- Engadget
Shadow and.. could it be... Droid 2? :icon_eek::icon_eek::icon_eek:
dancedroiddancedroid:icon_ banana::icon_ banana:dancedroiddancedroid:icon_ banana::icon_ banana:dancedroiddancedroid
Here's looking forward to a STELLAR July!
Motorola to launch two smartphones on Verizon in July, says WSJ -- Engadget
Shadow and.. could it be... Droid 2? :icon_eek::icon_eek::icon_eek:
dancedroiddancedroid:icon_ banana::icon_ banana:dancedroiddancedroid:icon_ banana::icon_ banana:dancedroiddancedroid
Here's looking forward to a STELLAR July!
Darkseider
Senior Member
hah just saw I posted what you did earlier in the read. Guess I should have read it all the way through before I responded.Cortex A9 drool. OMAP 4640's make me happy in the pants.
Comparison video between the OMAP 3430 and 3630 chipsets :
YouTube - Texas Instruments 65nm OMAP3430 vs 45nm OMAP3630!
80% improvement in framerates!
I saw that video and also linked the 3D gears .apk that was used. I also contacted the gentleman responsible for bringing GLX gears to the Android which was used in that video. Turns out that after speaking with him that the devices used in those tests were no locked to V-Sync. Which in english means they ran balls out. They were also running at stock speeds. IF the OMAP 3430 in the video were OC'd to run at the same speed as the OMAP 3630 the framerates would have been very comparable. The biggest bonus the OMAP 3630 will offer is power savings over the current 3430 in the Droid due to its' smaller manufacturing process and newer power savings schemes. Otherwise the base performance will be nearly identical to an equally clocked 3430.
Another note is that they also use the same GPU. So there will be little to any difference in performance there as well. The big difference will be the HD recording and HDMI out which is supported by the OMAP 3630 SoC.
Yeah I went digging for details on that one and also came up with this little tidbit of mathematical genius.
The Quadrant Benchmark that has the Shadow on it... Well let's just see how this stacks up, shall we?
Moto Droid running BB v1.0 @ 1.2 Ghz scores a 677
Moto Droid running BB v1.0 @ 800 Mhz scores 445
Which comes out to roughly 55 points per 100 Mhz. Now let's extrapolate that some when compared to the Shadow. We can do this because we have a Nexus One running 2.1 as a baseline and running Froyo.
Nexus One w/ 2.1 approx. 500
Nexus One w/ 2.2 approx. 1375
Which is a 2.75x improvement. Now comes the fun part!
The Shadow which is supposedly running a 3630 @ 720 Mhz would score roughly the same as the Droid @ 800. So we'll call it 450 for even numbers.
450 * 2.75 = 1237.5 and lo and behold on this graph:
Motorola Droid Shadow Gets Benchmarked; Leaves Everyone Else Behind!
The Shadow scores around 1200! So taking the above facts into account we can say with near absolute certainty that.
1. The OMAP 3630 and OMAP 3430 clock for clock is nearly identical in processing power.
2. The Motorola Shadow which is showed in this graph is running Android 2.2
3. The Motorola Droid running Android 2.2 will have identical performance to that of the Shadow at the same clock speed.
Whether or not it releases with Android 2.2 is still a guess but you can bet that it this benchmark was run with Android 2.2
Hope you enjoyed tonights little lesson!!
considering the differences between the two processors is mainly speed range, it's not surprising. the OMAP has always been identified as a more effecient processor than the snapdragon.hah just saw I posted what you did earlier in the read. Guess I should have read it all the way through before I responded.Cortex A9 drool. OMAP 4640's make me happy in the pants.
I saw that video and also linked the 3D gears .apk that was used. I also contacted the gentleman responsible for bringing GLX gears to the Android which was used in that video. Turns out that after speaking with him that the devices used in those tests were no locked to V-Sync. Which in english means they ran balls out. They were also running at stock speeds. IF the OMAP 3430 in the video were OC'd to run at the same speed as the OMAP 3630 the framerates would have been very comparable. The biggest bonus the OMAP 3630 will offer is power savings over the current 3430 in the Droid due to its' smaller manufacturing process and newer power savings schemes. Otherwise the base performance will be nearly identical to an equally clocked 3430.
Another note is that they also use the same GPU. So there will be little to any difference in performance there as well. The big difference will be the HD recording and HDMI out which is supported by the OMAP 3630 SoC.
Yeah I went digging for details on that one and also came up with this little tidbit of mathematical genius.
The Quadrant Benchmark that has the Shadow on it... Well let's just see how this stacks up, shall we?
Moto Droid running BB v1.0 @ 1.2 Ghz scores a 677
Moto Droid running BB v1.0 @ 800 Mhz scores 445
Which comes out to roughly 55 points per 100 Mhz. Now let's extrapolate that some when compared to the Shadow. We can do this because we have a Nexus One running 2.1 as a baseline and running Froyo.
Nexus One w/ 2.1 approx. 500
Nexus One w/ 2.2 approx. 1375
Which is a 2.75x improvement. Now comes the fun part!
The Shadow which is supposedly running a 3630 @ 720 Mhz would score roughly the same as the Droid @ 800. So we'll call it 450 for even numbers.
450 * 2.75 = 1237.5 and lo and behold on this graph:
Motorola Droid Shadow Gets Benchmarked; Leaves Everyone Else Behind!
The Shadow scores around 1200! So taking the above facts into account we can say with near absolute certainty that.
1. The OMAP 3630 and OMAP 3430 clock for clock is nearly identical in processing power.
2. The Motorola Shadow which is showed in this graph is running Android 2.2
3. The Motorola Droid running Android 2.2 will have identical performance to that of the Shadow at the same clock speed.
Whether or not it releases with Android 2.2 is still a guess but you can bet that it this benchmark was run with Android 2.2
Hope you enjoyed tonights little lesson!!
knowing this lets me hold on to my DROID just a little longer.
Codiusprie
Member
Hey ck do we know
As far as the Droid 2 goes read up on this thread. Other than it will be releasing around the same time as the Xtreme/Shadow there's not much more info than whats on the thread below.
I am still curious where this information is coming from. Absolutely everything I have read has said a fall release for the Droid2 at the earliest. I can't imagine Moto releasing two high end Droid devices at the same time making sense. Is this some super secret insider source?
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