Droid with 3G at 30,000 feet!!

[DevilDog0331]

And you believe that? Is it really true?

No. Thought it can mess with their communication. So they rather have you turn everything off.

Being a commercial airline pilot, yes, it can interfere with the electronics in the cockpit. Also, I have yet to see 3g while flying (yes, from time to time I forget to put the phone in airplane mode........notice at 37000 ft, and turn off).

Sorry, I had to register to call this out. Being a commercial airplane pilot, you should know better than to spread this BS lie. All essential electronics on an aircraft are shielded. So if you're stuff's not shielded, you're ****ed by by your own high power aviation radio, not some 2 watt cell phone. Your commercial aircraft works by PFM, Backed up with 3 IRS's, (with GPS updating from the heavens...) 3 FCC's, 2 FMS's, 3 Radar altimeters, and a couple of autopilots and you think someone in seat 12 C is going to jack it all up using a cell phone? Just exactly what kind of plane are you flying there sparky?

There is no way that any UL listed FCC inspected devices can interfere with the control systems of a plane that is legal to fly under FAA rules. Has anyone actually studied how much EFI the plane is bathed with at every moment, including spikes when the radar antenna sweeps it? How about when a truck driver drives by it with a big-assed illegal amplifier on his CB and makes it pump out 5000 watts? How much EFI do the lights in the plane put out? The hundreds of electric and electrically-actuated hydrolic motors? The static generated by flight? Lightning strikes? The reality is, hundreds of people don't turn off their electronic devices upon takeoff and landing everyday and nothing happens. Anyone who thinks you're gonna crash an airplane with your Driod is delusional.......at least until someone comes up with an app for it :icon_ devil:

 

[Laurence5905]

...Anyone who thinks you're gonna crash an airplane with your Driod is delusional.......at least until someone comes up with an app for it :icon_ devil:

Ok, by and large you are correct -- the electronics in a commercial airliner are VERY well-shielded.

This doesn't mean, however, that a cell-phone can't radiate enough power to interfere with communications. Things that are approved by the FAA and/or FCC don't always stay within their original specs. Shielding on cables can and does crack, allowing RF interference inside. If you happen to be sitting in a place on the plane that's near an antenna, it's possible that RF harmonics can issue from your phone and interfere with the frequency that the antenna is trying to detect. These things can and do happen.

Is it LIKELY that a cell-phone will crash a plane? Absolutely not. But things can go wrong, and sometimes do, so why bother taking the chance?

That, and the fact that it's an FCC violation to use a ground-based cell-phone communications device while in the air, mean you should deactivate your phone when you board a plane.

 

[droidtalk]

I applaud the calm, reasoned responses to DevilDog. I wish more people had an appreciation for the potential problems a low power transmitter (read: cell phone) can have when VERY NEAR an antenna.

 

[DroidSickness]

No. Thought it can mess with their communication. So they rather have you turn everything off.

Being a commercial airline pilot, yes, it can interfere with the electronics in the cockpit. Also, I have yet to see 3g while flying (yes, from time to time I forget to put the phone in airplane mode........notice at 37000 ft, and turn off).

Sorry, I had to register to call this out. Being a commercial airplane pilot, you should know better than to spread this BS lie. All essential electronics on an aircraft are shielded. So if you're stuff's not shielded, you're ****ed by by your own high power aviation radio, not some 2 watt cell phone. Your commercial aircraft works by PFM, Backed up with 3 IRS's, (with GPS updating from the heavens...) 3 FCC's, 2 FMS's, 3 Radar altimeters, and a couple of autopilots and you think someone in seat 12 C is going to jack it all up using a cell phone? Just exactly what kind of plane are you flying there sparky?

There is no way that any UL listed FCC inspected devices can interfere with the control systems of a plane that is legal to fly under FAA rules. Has anyone actually studied how much EFI the plane is bathed with at every moment, including spikes when the radar antenna sweeps it? How about when a truck driver drives by it with a big-assed illegal amplifier on his CB and makes it pump out 5000 watts? How much EFI do the lights in the plane put out? The hundreds of electric and electrically-actuated hydrolic motors? The static generated by flight? Lightning strikes? The reality is, hundreds of people don't turn off their electronic devices upon takeoff and landing everyday and nothing happens. Anyone who thinks you're gonna crash an airplane with your Driod is delusional.......at least until someone comes up with an app for it :icon_ devil:

Thanks for setting things straight and exactly what I was thinking just didt have all info. But thanks again for speaking the truth with pure facts.

 

[DroidSickness]

...Anyone who thinks you're gonna crash an airplane with your Driod is delusional.......at least until someone comes up with an app for it :icon_ devil:

Ok, by and large you are correct -- the electronics in a commercial airliner are VERY well-shielded.

This doesn't mean, however, that a cell-phone can't radiate enough power to interfere with communications. Things that are approved by the FAA and/or FCC don't always stay within their original specs. Shielding on cables can and does crack, allowing RF interference inside. If you happen to be sitting in a place on the plane that's near an antenna, it's possible that RF harmonics can issue from your phone and interfere with the frequency that the antenna is trying to detect. These things can and do happen.

Is it LIKELY that a cell-phone will crash a plane? Absolutely not. But things can go wrong, and sometimes do, so why bother taking the chance?

That, and the fact that it's an FCC violation to use a ground-based cell-phone communications device while in the air, mean you should deactivate your phone when you board a plane.

Yeah but like he said the fact is thousands of people dont turn off their cell and you dont hear one plane ever getting on the news stating it had problems with their electronics because of a cell phone that had not been turned off. Second this law is like the law that states it is illegal to have a Dvd or Tv indash in a vehicle or having an air bag suspension system or having a 2000hp car on the road.