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we takin over!!!!!
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Does anyone know how many android devices are out or that are coming out? It seems like we have an army of phones that are taking over the smartphone market and swallowing up other operating systems lol
Well, there is that little company in Cupertino, California that's not likely to be easy to swallow.
Darkseider
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Does anyone know how many android devices are out or that are coming out? It seems like we have an army of phones that are taking over the smartphone market and swallowing up other operating systems lol
Well, there is that little company in Cupertino, California that's not likely to be easy to swallow.
We won't have to swallow them they will just destroy themselves. Don't know about you but iPhone OS4 is lackluster and just included everything folks on WinMo/Android/WebOS have been enjoying for quite some time. The new iPhone 4G prototype is just as lackluster with nothing more than a forward facing camera. Whoopedee dooo. Couple that with a smaller than a 3GS display and it becomes craptastic. Apple is just pulling an Apple and expect the next iPhone to be, meh. In the meantime Android users will have:
Droid, Incredible, Droid 2, Nexus One, Nexus 2, Galaxy S, EVO 4G. Those are the heavyweights. Then you have the middleweight division comprising of the MyTouch Slide, Backflip, Legend, Devour and a few others. Lastly is the lightweights. Eris, MyTouch, G1, Hero, Moment, essentially the first gen. devices. All in all across all carriers Android is being represented and is growing at leaps and bounds. Whereas Apple even tough popular is beginning to get long in the tooth even with an OS and hardware refresh.
We won't have to swallow them they will just destroy themselves. Don't know about you but iPhone OS4 is lackluster and just included everything folks on WinMo/Android/WebOS have been enjoying for quite some time. The new iPhone 4G prototype is just as lackluster with nothing more than a forward facing camera...
Apple will sell millions and millions of the iPhone 4G. It may appear "lackluster" to you, but it is a well designed evolution of a much loved product. I've been listening to obituaries for Apple products for many, many years. And they've been correct exactly once: the Lisa.
Meanwhile, universities are banning the iPad because the strain it is putting on their wifi networks is significant.
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Darkseider
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We won't have to swallow them they will just destroy themselves. Don't know about you but iPhone OS4 is lackluster and just included everything folks on WinMo/Android/WebOS have been enjoying for quite some time. The new iPhone 4G prototype is just as lackluster with nothing more than a forward facing camera...
Apple will sell millions and millions of the iPhone 4G. It may appear "lackluster" to you, but it is a well designed evolution of a much loved product. I've been listening to obituaries for Apple products for many, many years. And they've been correct exactly once: the Lisa.
Meanwhile, universities are banning the iPad because the strain it is putting on their wifi networks is significant.
Wow. Just the Lisa? Hmmm... how about. The Apple Newton, Apple IIGS, Apple Pippin, Motorola ROKR, 20th Anniversary Mac, MacBook AIR, Macintosh TV and Macintosh Portable also come to mind.
We won't have to swallow them they will just destroy themselves. Don't know about you but iPhone OS4 is lackluster and just included everything folks on WinMo/Android/WebOS have been enjoying for quite some time. The new iPhone 4G prototype is just as lackluster with nothing more than a forward facing camera...
Apple will sell millions and millions of the iPhone 4G. It may appear "lackluster" to you, but it is a well designed evolution of a much loved product. I've been listening to obituaries for Apple products for many, many years. And they've been correct exactly once: the Lisa.
Meanwhile, universities are banning the iPad because the strain it is putting on their wifi networks is significant.
Wow. Just the Lisa? Hmmm... how about. The Apple Newton, Apple IIGS, Apple Pippin, Motorola ROKR, 20th Anniversary Mac, MacBook AIR, Macintosh TV and Macintosh Portable also come to mind.
Well, let's see. Your complaint was that Apple isn't sufficiently innovative, right? OK.
The Apple Newton was a ground-breaking hand-held computer with handwriting recognition. Sound familiar? Further, comparing Apple with Jobs to Apple with Scully is like comparing Apples with Oldsmobiles.
The Apple IIGS was among the first (if not the first) 16 bit personal computer.
The Apple Pippin was not an Apple product. It was a game console licensed to a Japanese firm.
The Motorola ROKR was a Motorola product and failed in large part because it couldn't compete against Apple products, much to the displeasure of Motorola.
The 20th Anniversary Mac was never meant to be anything but a Rolex version of a Mac, not a mass consumer product. It included "concierge delivery."
The MacBook Air is hardly a failure. It's a prestige notebook product that sells very well.
MacIntosh TV: See John Sculley
MacIntosh Portable: Another innovative product that was ahead of its time.
So your complaint was that Apple is not sufficiently innovative yet your list of "failures" includes several examples where the problem was not too little innovation but too much. And in other cases you're pointing to the well known period when virtually everyone was shouting Apple's obituaries.
If it makes you feel any better, you're not alone in being wrong about Apple. Many people were. Myself included.
Darkseider
Senior Member
Apple will sell millions and millions of the iPhone 4G. It may appear "lackluster" to you, but it is a well designed evolution of a much loved product. I've been listening to obituaries for Apple products for many, many years. And they've been correct exactly once: the Lisa.
Meanwhile, universities are banning the iPad because the strain it is putting on their wifi networks is significant.
Wow. Just the Lisa? Hmmm... how about. The Apple Newton, Apple IIGS, Apple Pippin, Motorola ROKR, 20th Anniversary Mac, MacBook AIR, Macintosh TV and Macintosh Portable also come to mind.
Well, let's see. Your complaint was that Apple isn't sufficiently innovative, right? OK.
The Apple Newton was a ground-breaking hand-held computer with handwriting recognition. Sound familiar? Further, comparing Apple with Jobs to Apple with Scully is like comparing Apples with Oldsmobiles.
The Apple IIGS was among the first (if not the first) 16 bit personal computer.
The Apple Pippin was not an Apple product. It was a game console licensed to a Japanese firm.
The Motorola ROKR was a Motorola product and failed in large part because it couldn't compete against Apple products, much to the displeasure of Motorola.
The 20th Anniversary Mac was never meant to be anything but a Rolex version of a Mac, not a mass consumer product. It included "concierge delivery."
The MacBook Air is hardly a failure. It's a prestige notebook product that sells very well.
MacIntosh TV: See John Sculley
MacIntosh Portable: Another innovative product that was ahead of its time.
So your complaint was that Apple is not sufficiently innovative yet your list of "failures" includes several examples where the problem was not too little innovation but too much. And in other cases you're pointing to the well known period when virtually everyone was shouting Apple's obituaries.
If it makes you feel any better, you're not alone in being wrong about Apple. Many people were. Myself included.
The IIGS came late to the party in 1986. The 286 was out 4 years prior and the 386 the year before that. Nothing innovative there.
The Apple Newton, I'll give ya that.
Apple Pippin sorry... FAIL.
Motorola ROKR:
Technically speaking the iPhone is not Apple's first cell phone, in 2005 it partnered with Motorola for the ROKR phone. As with any Apple product it was widely expected, it featured an MP3 player with an interface similar to the iPod interface and allowed users to playback music purchased from iTunes store.
Macbook AIR. No really. Failure
20th Anniversary Mac. OK. One off spin for their 20th. I'll give that one to you too.
Mac Portable: Fail. The Osborne 1 and Compaq Portable came like 8 years before it. No innovation there.
Mac TV. Fail. Scully or Jobs. Doesn't matter. It was an utter flop.
Oooh and since we mentioned TV. Let's not forget the Apple TV introduced in 2007. FAIL.
The only things that I can truly say Apple came up with that were winners in recent memory were the iMac, iPod line and iPhone.
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So your complaint was that Apple is not sufficiently innovative yet your list of "failures" includes several examples where the problem was not too little innovation but too much. And in other cases you're pointing to the well known period when virtually everyone was shouting Apple's obituaries.
If it makes you feel any better, you're not alone in being wrong about Apple. Many people were. Myself included.
I don't want to get in the middle of this perse, because I don't follow Apple products in the least, nor many products at all; however, I am looking at it kinda like this:
It doesn't matter why a product fails/doesn't fail, the end results might be the same.
If something is "too innovative", then it missed the mark; and while I might agree to an extent that some products are before their time, it doesn't change the end result: if something doesn't work, it doesn't work.
I also don't see how lack of innovation directly turns into the lack luster appeal of the 'upcoming' iPhone; the original discussion was the iPhone which lead to all these other products, which still make no difference with said iPhone.
I agree with you that it will continue to partake is sales, large ones at that, even if based on consumer love for a product; even if that product isn't making awesome new leaps and bounds, it's offering what people want/need: ease of use and it can get the job done.
Does anyone know how many android devices are out or that are coming out? It seems like we have an army of phones that are taking over the smartphone market and swallowing up other operating systems lol
Well, there is that little company in Cupertino, California that's not likely to be easy to swallow.
Don't have to swallow them. Just buy the city of Cupertino and declare imminent domain. WE WILL ASSIMILATE! MWAHAHAHAA :icon_ banana:
I think it will come down to Android and Apple.
Just like PCs, Windows or Apple.
I would like to know the true number of Android devices (not just phones) I suspect Android has already taken the lead.
So your complaint was that Apple is not sufficiently innovative yet your list of "failures" includes several examples where the problem was not too little innovation but too much. And in other cases you're pointing to the well known period when virtually everyone was shouting Apple's obituaries.
If it makes you feel any better, you're not alone in being wrong about Apple. Many people were. Myself included.
I don't want to get in the middle of this perse, because I don't follow Apple products in the least, nor many products at all; however, I am looking at it kinda like this:
It doesn't matter why a product fails/doesn't fail, the end results might be the same.
If something is "too innovative", then it missed the mark; and while I might agree to an extent that some products are before their time, it doesn't change the end result: if something doesn't work, it doesn't work.
I also don't see how lack of innovation directly turns into the lack luster appeal of the 'upcoming' iPhone; the original discussion was the iPhone which lead to all these other products, which still make no difference with said iPhone.
I agree with you that it will continue to partake is sales, large ones at that, even if based on consumer love for a product; even if that product isn't making awesome new leaps and bounds, it's offering what people want/need: ease of use and it can get the job done.
agree with this comment. you have to admire at Apple, they have so many enemies now. They go against every phone makers in the world, and none comes close to beat them yet. Yes, Android is better OS and Droid (and yes, Droid is the best Android phone IMO) has to compete against other Android phone.
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