Bugless Beast versus the New iPhone

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All this news about the iphone and how you get lousy reception due to the metal band reminds me of the hysteria we had over people experiencing FCs when accidentally touching the volume button while powering.

Big difference was that we could simply fix our issue by tweaking the script, lol

Bugless Beast Rocks!
 

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Someone stopped by my office yesterday and showed off their new iphone 4, and I asked to try it out. The first thing I tried was to bridge the antennas by holding it in my left hand it is is DEFINITELY an issue. Apple really dropped the ball on this one! (And I have to admit that I am a bit of an Apple fanboy - just an ATT hater too)...
 

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What really grinds my gears is that Apple blames the users for holding it wrong... If I feel like holding a phone whatever way I please I should still be allowed to use its functionality as a phone... ti's why they have all those nice accelerometers and nice features for is it not?
 

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also I fear the worst part is they are probably going to get away with murder in a sense since all these ultra-addicted fanboys (no offense) are probably thinking that they indeed are wrong for holding it the wrong way...
 

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Holding it the wrong way? Can someone clarify what the issue is with the new iphone?
 

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Android is the future.

No offense but most of those Apple fans don't have the first clue as to why they should care about certain features and capabilities. I mean Steve Jobs has actually gotten people to believe that Flash is dying and mobile devices aren't capable of being stable while running it. From what I've read various developers have said that HTML5 is not capable of doing what Flash can. And this is what Apple is trying to bring down Adobe with.

Furthermore, so many of these Apple fanboys have bought into the hype of Apple in the first place, because "it's magical and revolutionary" when in my opinion the new iPhone 4 is about on par with any high end android phone, but just barely though. I would contend that my Rooted Moto Droid running Bugless is the best smart phone available (even against other rooted phones but that's another debate). As for the iPhone, is it pretty? Yes. Is the display phenomenal? Yes. But what else does it really bring to the table? And this goes across the board for all of Apples products.

What's more is the enthusiast, I'm not talking about your average customers (Apple or Android alike). I'm talking people like me who dive into forums (such as this one) and contend that "Well Apple said this, so it must be true." Are people just unwilling to actually get out there and do some research on their own? Or do they just want to be spoon fed everything?

Most customers just want their stuff to work and that's absolutely fine with we. But when an Apple Fanboy tries to go toe-to-toe with an Android don't even try to convince me your product is better with half the features, most of which you got last week.

IMHO the new iPhone 4 kinda sucks in comparison to what's available on Android. To top it off your still stuck on AT&T, enough said.
 
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Now Att is bait and switching with iPad unlimited data plans.

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No offense but most of those Apple fans don't have the first clue as to why they should care about certain features and capabilities. I mean Steve Jobs has actually gotten people to believe that Flash is a dying and mobile devices aren't capable of being stable while running it. From what I've read various developers have said that HTML5 is not capable of doing what Flash can. And this is what Apple is trying to bring down Adobe with.

Furthermore, so many of these Apple fanboys have bought into the hype of Apple in the first place, because "it's magical and revolutionary" when in my opinion the new iPhone 4 is about on par with any high end android phone, but just barely though. I would contend that my Rooted Moto Droid running Bugless is the best smart phone available (even against other rooted phones but that's another debate). As for the iPhone, is it pretty? Yes. Is the display phenomenal? Yes. But what else does it really bring to the table? And this goes across the board for all of Apples products.

What's more is the enthusiast, I'm not talking about your average customers (Apple or Android alike). I'm talking people like me who dive into forums (such as this one) and contend that "Well Apple said this, so it must be true." Are people just unwilling to actually get out there and do some research on their own? Or do they just want to be spoon fed everything?

Most customers just want their stuff to work and that's absolutely fine with we. But when an Apple Fanboy tries to go toe-to-toe with an Android don't even try to convince me your product is better with half the features, most of which you got last week.

IMHO the new iPhone 4 kinda sucks in comparison to what's available on Android. To top it off your still stuck on AT&T, enough said.

+100

Could not have said it better myself.

But deep down inside we're all kinda partial to what works for us. All I have to say is I'm glad Android works so well for me :)
 

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No offense but most of those Apple fans don't have the first clue as to why they should care about certain features and capabilities. I mean Steve Jobs has actually gotten people to believe that Flash is a dying and mobile devices aren't capable of being stable while running it. From what I've read various developers have said that HTML5 is not capable of doing what Flash can. And this is what Apple is trying to bring down Adobe with.

Furthermore, so many of these Apple fanboys have bought into the hype of Apple in the first place, because "it's magical and revolutionary" when in my opinion the new iPhone 4 is about on par with any high end android phone, but just barely though. I would contend that my Rooted Moto Droid running Bugless is the best smart phone available (even against other rooted phones but that's another debate). As for the iPhone, is it pretty? Yes. Is the display phenomenal? Yes. But what else does it really bring to the table? And this goes across the board for all of Apples products.

What's more is the enthusiast, I'm not talking about your average customers (Apple or Android alike). I'm talking people like me who dive into forums (such as this one) and contend that "Well Apple said this, so it must be true." Are people just unwilling to actually get out there and do some research on their own? Or do they just want to be spoon fed everything?

Most customers just want their stuff to work and that's absolutely fine with we. But when an Apple Fanboy tries to go toe-to-toe with an Android don't even try to convince me your product is better with half the features, most of which you got last week.

IMHO the new iPhone 4 kinda sucks in comparison to what's available on Android. To top it off your still stuck on AT&T, enough said.

+100

Could not have said it better myself.

But deep down inside we're all kinda partial to what works for us. All I have to say is I'm glad Android works so well for me :)

i probably wasn't clear but i really hate apple (and AT&T) lol... i agree with you that people are partial to what works for them, but that doesn't make it the best product available. it's a very subjective debate but when you compare spec sheets and features and capabilities there's no comparison.

On a side note did anyone else see that guy from Sweden (I think) write some software that allows him to use external USB devices (keyboards, mouse, external hard drives) on his N1? That would be really nice on my Droid, a bit of over kill but still nice.
 

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Holding it the wrong way? Can someone clarify what the issue is with the new iphone?

Just do a Google search for iPhone 4 antenna problem and you will find lots of links. The issue is with the gap between the 2 external antennas - if you hold it in a way that both antennas are contacted by your hand, you effectively bridge the antennas, and your reception drops (along with your call).

Apple is telling people just to hold the phone so they don't touch that corner of the phone, or buy a case for it.

I would raise hell if I bought one of the phones and I had to buy a case to MAKE THE PHONE WORK!

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Holding it the wrong way? Can someone clarify what the issue is with the new iphone?

Just do a Google search for iPhone 4 antenna problem and you will find lots of links. The issue is with the gap between the 2 external antennas - if you hold it in a way that both antennas are contacted by your hand, you effectively bridge the antennas, and your reception drops (along with your call).

Apple is telling people just to hold the phone so they don't touch that corner of the phone, or buy a case for it.

I would raise hell if I bought one of the phones and I had to buy a case to MAKE THE PHONE WORK!

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Some customer actually emailed Steve Jobs (supposedly) and what's in my signature was the response from Apple.
 
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I wish I was in the iPhone plastic cover business, lol.....
 

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The sad part is that almost none of the people that buy the iPhone think anything of having to buy even more items just to make the phone work.

My buddy in California bought the iPhone 4 AND the bumpers b/c he said otherwise the phone would not work so he had to buy them. I was like WTF man you should not have to buy them the freaking phone should work!

He thought nothing of having to buy them and even worse he really thought it had true multitasking. Of course he completely ignores the service issues with AT&T and everything else because he wants to phone so much.

I mean i am glad he is happy but common people how long are you going to buy into the whole if Apple makes it is is amazing.

Their laptops are nice no doubt but their "smartphones" suck.
 

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No offense but most of those Apple fans don't have the first clue as to why they should care about certain features and capabilities. I mean Steve Jobs has actually gotten people to believe that Flash is dying and mobile devices aren't capable of being stable while running it. From what I've read various developers have said that HTML5 is not capable of doing what Flash can. And this is what Apple is trying to bring down Adobe with.

Furthermore, so many of these Apple fanboys have bought into the hype of Apple in the first place, because "it's magical and revolutionary" when in my opinion the new iPhone 4 is about on par with any high end android phone, but just barely though. I would contend that my Rooted Moto Droid running Bugless is the best smart phone available (even against other rooted phones but that's another debate). As for the iPhone, is it pretty? Yes. Is the display phenomenal? Yes. But what else does it really bring to the table? And this goes across the board for all of Apples products.

What's more is the enthusiast, I'm not talking about your average customers (Apple or Android alike). I'm talking people like me who dive into forums (such as this one) and contend that "Well Apple said this, so it must be true." Are people just unwilling to actually get out there and do some research on their own? Or do they just want to be spoon fed everything?

Most customers just want their stuff to work and that's absolutely fine with we. But when an Apple Fanboy tries to go toe-to-toe with an Android don't even try to convince me your product is better with half the features, most of which you got last week.

IMHO the new iPhone 4 kinda sucks in comparison to what's available on Android. To top it off your still stuck on AT&T, enough said.



DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!!!!!!! Take that Apple!!!dancedroid
 

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No offense but most of those Apple fans don't have the first clue as to why they should care about certain features and capabilities. I mean Steve Jobs has actually gotten people to believe that Flash is dying and mobile devices aren't capable of being stable while running it. From what I've read various developers have said that HTML5 is not capable of doing what Flash can. And this is what Apple is trying to bring down Adobe with.

Furthermore, so many of these Apple fanboys have bought into the hype of Apple in the first place, because "it's magical and revolutionary" when in my opinion the new iPhone 4 is about on par with any high end android phone, but just barely though. I would contend that my Rooted Moto Droid running Bugless is the best smart phone available (even against other rooted phones but that's another debate). As for the iPhone, is it pretty? Yes. Is the display phenomenal? Yes. But what else does it really bring to the table? And this goes across the board for all of Apples products.

What's more is the enthusiast, I'm not talking about your average customers (Apple or Android alike). I'm talking people like me who dive into forums (such as this one) and contend that "Well Apple said this, so it must be true." Are people just unwilling to actually get out there and do some research on their own? Or do they just want to be spoon fed everything?

Most customers just want their stuff to work and that's absolutely fine with we. But when an Apple Fanboy tries to go toe-to-toe with an Android don't even try to convince me your product is better with half the features, most of which you got last week.

IMHO the new iPhone 4 kinda sucks in comparison to what's available on Android. To top it off your still stuck on AT&T, enough said.

I agree with you completely. I work at vzw and people come in every day telling me they heard vzw is getting the iphone next month.....(this has been going on for the past 2 years since I started). I ask them why they would want it? 9/10 people say because its the iphone. I almost want to just stop talking to them all together at this point because they just want it because its apple. These customers take no recognition that the droid that has been out for 9 months has surpassed the new iphones capabilities already.

IMHO, No one can count a front facing camera that only works on wifi to only apple products to be a benefit. The possibility that I am going to be somewhere where i have wifi and another person that has an iphone4 & has wifi & are able/want to do video conferencing is very low. Why would I not just call this person, oh probably because I dont have 3g service....nvm i do see value for att customers lol

IMO about apple,Apple products are overrated. People think apple leads in innovation but the honest truth is they hold it back. The last innovative thing was the iphone1 and before that was the ipod. Without these products, apple computers would still be going no where because apple computers are the exact opposite of what a person really wants from a computer. The computer age we live in was revolutionized by c, unix and creating standards in hardware so you could write programs that were no longer proprietary to the hardware. But yet apple uses the same computer you buy from hp, dell etc... loads their version of unix on it and ups the price 1000. Apple will not let you buy the same hardware for half the price and load up their os. They have to control everything to keep themselves in business because they arent doing anything innovative. Apple is soley profit motivated and has become one the largest US companies because these fanboys and people who are to ignorant to do a little research by themselves.

Sorry for the rant but I am an anti-apple-fanboy
 
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