Working on the Bootloader..

[The Physician]

as soon as I can afford a Droid X, I will be working full time on cracking the bootloader.

I was wondering who all else on these forums has any experience besides me with these things, so maybe we can work together and share information once I afford myself a Droid X.

 

[FreyGrimrod]

post this in the hack section

 

[deputc26]

I believe PeterAlfonso will also be on this. Good luck getting ahold of him though, he is the BB dev and prob gets more spam than anyone else on this forum.

 

[quadjacks]

I believe PeterAlfonso will also be on this. Good luck getting ahold of him though, he is the BB dev and prob gets more spam than anyone else on this forum.

Im not sure if he's on the bootloader side, rather than just a Dev... But all the ways in which he can be reached can be found here on his website, if you haven't already found it/him... Peter Alfonso

 

[droidman101]

Nah, cracking the bootloader takes way more than rom devs knowledge, it requires a ton of luck too

 

[quadjacks]

Nah, cracking the bootloader takes way more than rom devs knowledge, it requires a ton of luck too

Yeah I have been following Pete for about a year now and cant really attest to him working on the bootloader.

 

[Martin030908]

as soon as I can afford a Droid X, I will be working full time on cracking the bootloader.

I was wondering who all else on these forums has any experience besides me with these things, so maybe we can work together and share information once I afford myself a Droid X.

Droid X Forum

Couple people over here working on the boot loader.

 

[Ezun]

First time poster here. But this is a GREAT idea from xda-developers forums:
xda-developers - View Single Post - Encrypted bootloader?

Setting up a "folding@home" type environment to help with cracking the bootloader.

 

[crazy talk]

First time poster here. But this is a GREAT idea from xda-developers forums:
xda-developers - View Single Post - Encrypted bootloader?

Setting up a "folding@home" type environment to help with cracking the bootloader.

next to impossible. RSA2048 bit encryption (what the DroidX has) is supposed to be uncrackable until 2030.

Ok, let's get some figures here,2048 bit key has 2^2048combinations. That is:
30000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 combinations.
That would take 100000000000000 years for one computer (capable of one million instructions per second) to crack.

okay, i did some more math, it would take the worlds fastest computer (Jaguar XT5) 43,000 years to brute force crack the DroidX's bootloader.

 

[Garandhero]

First time poster here. But this is a GREAT idea from xda-developers forums:
xda-developers - View Single Post - Encrypted bootloader?

Setting up a "folding@home" type environment to help with cracking the bootloader.

next to impossible. RSA2048 bit encryption (what the DroidX has) is supposed to be uncrackable until 2030.

Ok, let's get some figures here,2048 bit key has 2^2048combinations. That is:
30000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 combinations.
That would take 100000000000000 years for one computer (capable of one million instructions per second) to crack.

okay, i did some more math, it would take the worlds fastest computer (Jaguar XT5) 43,000 years to brute force crack the DroidX's bootloader.

Thats not technically true... it could take less than a microsecond if the XT5 gets lucky and gets the right permutation on the first pass the 43,000 years is how long it would take to go through all the permutations... I believe

 

[Nickdroid86]

Let's all keep talking instead of solving this issue. You started a thread though you have no droid x?

 

[shaundizzle]

hmm how much money would it take moto to sell us the "code" to crack that boot loader.

and i would imagine that they would condone unlocking of this after that whole "rooting and jailbreaking being dubbed fully legal"

but i really dont know what im talking about///http://www.droidforums.net/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif

 

[richjacksonkc]

hmm how much money would it take moto to sell us the "code" to crack that boot loader.

and i would imagine that they would condone unlocking of this after that whole "rooting and jailbreaking being dubbed fully legal"

but i really dont know what im talking about///http://www.droidforums.net/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif

Just my opinion but I think the locked bootloader has to do with one app alone: wifi hotspot. I think vzw ultimately pressured moto to keep locked in the hopes that fewer people would root to bypass the 20$ monthly fee, and really, can you blame them?.. but on that note, good luck birdman!

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

 

[mgf]

hmm how much money would it take moto to sell us the "code" to crack that boot loader.

and i would imagine that they would condone unlocking of this after that whole "rooting and jailbreaking being dubbed fully legal"

but i really dont know what im talking about///http://www.droidforums.net/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif

Just my opinion but I think the locked bootloader has to do with one app alone: wifi hotspot. I think vzw ultimately pressured moto to keep locked in the hopes that fewer people would root to bypass the 20$ monthly fee, and really, can you blame them?.. but on that note, good luck birdman!

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

i think theres a chance your right but, if thats true moto could have said eff off and put the droid x(but it would be called droid x)on say like att. but again thats just a thought.

 

[Phelgon]

First time poster here. But this is a GREAT idea from xda-developers forums:
xda-developers - View Single Post - Encrypted bootloader?

Setting up a "folding@home" type environment to help with cracking the bootloader.

next to impossible. RSA2048 bit encryption (what the DroidX has) is supposed to be uncrackable until 2030.

Ok, let's get some figures here,2048 bit key has 2^2048combinations. That is:
30000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 combinations.
That would take 100000000000000 years for one computer (capable of one million instructions per second) to crack.

okay, i did some more math, it would take the worlds fastest computer (Jaguar XT5) 43,000 years to brute force crack the DroidX's bootloader.

Thats not technically true... it could take less than a microsecond if the XT5 gets lucky and gets the right permutation on the first pass the 43,000 years is how long it would take to go through all the permutations... I believe

Well, that's the point of distributed computing. Something like freerainbowtables.com, you distribute the one thing you want cracked to millions of machines, and they all run a subset, thereby forming a large supercomputer.

They did it with RSA 768 on a much smaller scale: 768-bit RSA cracked, 1024-bit safe (for now)