Where are SD apps?

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  1. calguy19

    calguy19 Member

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    I had to exchange my DX for a replacement. Before I did, I moved as many D/L'ed apps to the SD card as possible. Looks like around 200MB worth.

    Moved the SD card to the new phone - the apps were NOWHERE to be found. I have to re-download all of them from scratch.

    What's the deal? Other than saving a little bit of my 8GB of phone memory, what good did this do? Why didn't my apps show up on the new phone?
     
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    When you put the card into the phone, you did move the apps back to the phone right?

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    How was I supposed to move them back from the SD card to the phone if they aren't there? I checked in Settings, Applications, Manage Applications. They weren't there, under Downloaded , All, or On SD Card.

    I thought they were supposed to be there, but they weren't. They showed an on SD card when the SD card was in the original phone.

    Again - what happened to those apps?
     
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    They are on your SD card in the .android_secure folder You can't view them from the phone, only from a PC.
     
  5. calguy19

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    Yes, there are a bunch of files in that folder, all ending in .asec filetype.

    But what good does that do? How do I restore those as apps I can run on the new phone? Again, Manage Applications in Settings doesn't see those moved apps.

    The main question is HOW DO I RESTORE THE APPS I MOVED TO THE SD CARD IN THE OLD PHONE WITH THAT SAME SD CARD IN THE NEW PHONE, SO I CAN ACTUALLY SEE THEM ON MY MENU AND RUN THEM ON THE NEW PHONE?

    It's weird - the files are where you said, but they don't show up anywhere on the phone as apps that can be run. What am I missing?
     
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    Best method for future note is to get Titanium Backup and back up your apps to the SD card, then if you get a new phone, get Titanium on it and let it reinstall your apps.
     
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    Isnt Titanium for rooted phones or is there a non rooted version?
     
  8. Xplorer4x4

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    ^no there is not an unrooted version. If you are unwilling to root, try MyBackupPro(i think thats the name, cant recall if root is needed) or App Monster.

    The main question is how did you back up/move your apps? Using the built in A2SD function? I havent ever used it so I dont know, but I do know Darktremors Apps2SD hack was designed to only run on the current install of Android. If I did a wipe of my phone, then I had to format the A2SD partition as well.

    Yelling at people trying to help you really is not exactly a good idea if you want help. I understand your frustration but it is not our fault. A better idea would have been to ask for advice before trading in your original DX.
     
  9. calguy19

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    Yes I had asked for help. But nobody answered my question as I wrote it. That is why I repeated my original question in caps. To emphasize my question as I originally asked it. I did not ask what I should have done. I did not ask what I should do in the future. I did not ask what measures I should have asked "before trading in my DX". If I could see the future and thought there might be a problem, I might have taken appropriate measures.

    I used a 3rd party app to assist me in moving my apps from the phone memory to the SD card, and then I checked the app manager to verify those apps had indeed been moved to the SD card. Then I replaced the defective phone with the replacement sent by Verizon. I expected those apps to be on the new phone when the SD card was transferred. Unfortunately, they were not. But fortunately I had written down the names of all the apps I had downloaded, so I manually re-downloaded the free ones. The paid ones show up on "My Apps" and are easitly replaced.

    My own best guess analysis is that google, for app control reasons, leaves a necessary "stub" on the phone memory when the bulk of the app is moved to the SD card. This saves phone memory, but it does not allow you to transfer a copy of all your apps to another phone. The stub must be in the phone memory for that app to run. Or so it seems.

    As a general comment - I am on a lot of forums, of all types. On many, I am the moderator. Some are more useful that others. Forums where threads are highjacked, replies do not correspond to the actual question posed, or people simply post uninformed guesses are not particularly useful, and those forums gradually lose their readership. Any forum is only as useful as the posts from the knowledgable contributors.
     
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    Along the same lines.... I can see one of the apps I downloaded on the card, and the others (games) are working on the phone, but how do I get the kindle books I downloaded from my computer to the phone? (Ok, I did, but they're not visible in the Kindle folder....)
    I only get a message that the card needs installed or mounted...which I have done several times.
    The card is working, I think...maybe....or not....
    Thanks
    Mary
     
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    Nice to see the stellar attitude continues. I was simply trying to provide some useful advice.

    Caps are interpreted as yelling. If you need emphasis there are other ways to do so then by "yelling" as you can see by your use of underlining. You had time to move the apps to the sd card, so from the sounds of it your phone was not in a state that it was unusable and therefore had time to take appropriate precautions. Plus, if the phone is outside the 30 day warranty period you have to wait atleast, over night to receive your replacement.

    And you did "trade your phone in"..for a replacement. ;)
    A third party app? That narrows it down.

    Appbrain will create a list of all your apps for you and is free. No need to get out the pen and paper.

    No the APK file, generally speaking, is stored in /system/data/ at all times, and only the data for the application is written to the SD card, like levels beaten in a game for example. Theres not a stub as you call it, simply the APK file still located in the phones internal storage.

    Ironic you insert comments in to your post that, as you say, do not correspond to the question posted. ;) You also criticize uninformed guesses but I just provided you with fact here. Not a guess. :) I will try to make a mental note you would rather rant,rave, and make snide remarks then provide useful information like a specific app name for example. Glad you realize there is nothing you can do to recover from your error. Have fun restoring your apps.
     
  12. calguy19

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    Well xplorer -

    you never did answer my question. The apps were shown by the app mgr as having been successfully moved to the sd card, but when the SD card was installed in the replacement phone, they were not on the new phone.

    Rather than answer my question, you seem to prefer the technique of ad hominum attacks, criticizing my method of trying to refocus the discussion to answering my original question which is: the apps were shown as successfully transferred to the SD card, the SD card was moved to the new phone, but the apps were not available.

    With all your technical "expertise" you would rather criticize a "junior member" and his "personality disorders" rather than actually answering the question as posed.

    It must be wonderful to be so knowledgable about everything having to do with droids.

    BTW caps do not always signify yelling. Sometimes they are used simply to emphasize a statement. Oops, I forgot - you already know everything.

    I already reinstalled all my lost apps, as I had no choice. My original post was only to understand why the transfer didn't work. Speaking of having fun, hope you enjoy waiting around for the next person whose post doesn't meet with your self defined standards, so you can post your pompous, albeit useless advice, generously mixed with your amusing sarcasm. Gee, you must be really smart, xplorer. I'm sure everyone reading this thread is really impressed with how helpful you are. I'm sure others reading this thread will feel really comfortable posting their questions, wondering what kind of sarcastic responses they might get here.

    Somehow, I think you missed the point and the purpose of these forums.
     
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