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VZW Galaxy S3: Bootloader Question, Unlockable?

Discussion in 'Samsung Galaxy S3' started by alquimista, Jun 15, 2012.

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    I can't seem to find a definitive answer on weather or not the VZW version of the Galaxy S3 will have an unlockable bootloader? Granted it hasn't shipped yet, but usually someone has a little bit o leaked info on the bootloader by now.

    There's plenty of info for the GT-I9300 model, with video guides on unlocking the bootloader, rooting etc etc.

    But there are 4 different model numbers for the SGS3's coming to US carriers with the S4 proc:

    • SCH-I535 (vzw)
    • SGH-I747 (att)
    • SPH-L710 (sprint)
    • SGH-T999 (t-mobile)
    I can't find anything that even hints that the vzw version will be unlocked or locked.

    I see alot of speculation that the bootloader will be unloackable for these models but no one seems to know for sure.

    Can anyone provide reliable intel on this issue? Will the vzw version of the Galaxy S3 have an unlockable bootloader? Will we be able to boot into odin mode? Will CF-Root work on the SCH-I535?

    Thanks and net-hugs to anyone who can get us the info before I have to pre-order from vzw to keep "unlimeted" data.
    -ALQI
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    Good question. I assumed it would be unlockable, but that's only because that's what I read in a general context. I'd be curious to know about vzw specifically as well.

    Tbh I don't see vzw getting a "custom" bootloader.
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    This is the only thing keeping me from preordering. I do'nt want to get burned if it's locked.
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    If you preorder you can keep unlimited data. Consider this too.
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    Yeah, that's kind of the problem. Frankly, I'd rather lose unlimited data and or pay full price for a device or even move to a different carrier if I can get an unlocked bootloader. I know, I know, I can get the Nexus and have a guaranteed unlockable bootloader, but I want more up to date specs than the Nexus offers and the freedom of custom ROM's, Kernels, and all that good stuff that comes with an unlocked or unlockable bootloader.

    Basically, I want me some SGS3 cake and I want to eat it too.

    ALQI
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    I'd assume its unlocked. Not sure why it wouldnt be.

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    Arent bootloaders usually locked by the cell phone company? Thats why all new motorolas and htc's are now locked right?

    Samsungs never seem to be locked though.
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    No motos are locked because moto sucks and htcs are unlockable.

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    Moto's do suck i'll give you that. Just thought that I read somewhere they have a constantly changing encryption that they added to stop the bootloader from being unlocked.
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    Who?

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    You mean where?

    Don't remember. That's why I said "I thought.." meaning I may or may not have remembered.
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    I think you are referring to their encryription keys which and change when they release a new kernel

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    Even the nexus shipped with a locked bootloader. I don't know of any phone that ships unlocked. I would imagine that the S III will ship locked, but be able to be unlocked. Motorolas are the phones you have to worry about. The only one with the option to unlock was the OG Droid. DX, DX2, RAZR, DROID 2-4, Etc. are all locked. If I were a betting man, I'd put everything I owned on the RAZR HD being locked down as well. Imo.

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    I believe Samsung phones are fairly open, so I would assume it would at least be unlockable.

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    N1 shipped with an unlockable bootloader but it had an eFuse that showed that it had been unlocked.
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    The Sammy G S3 has a counter of sorts.
    These past few years, Samsung has been very kind to us power users. We have been able to
    modify most of our Galaxy series devices as much as we wanted, without silly roadblocks as
    locked bootloaders and such.

    With the Galaxy S II, Samsung introduced a custom kernel flash counter and custom kernel warning triangle.
    On the Galaxy Note, Samsung tried hiding the data once more.On the Galaxy S III (among other new devices), Samsung has gone a step further, and has introduced a background service that runs on your device and checks for things such as a modified /system, apps running with root access, etc.

    For the moment, this service does not do anything malicious, but who knows what the future will bring ? Tracking of IMEI's that have ever ran root, disabling of services, etc ?
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    Sounds like ill be flashing right away:p

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    Soooo....

    So, you're saying the bootloader is unlockable? Yes? No?

    I'm not too worried about the background service that you mentioned, as I'm sure some generous genious out there will find a way to get rid of, or at least fool it into submission. I'm looking at you chainfire...

    Anyhoo, I've read a few reviews of the AT&T version of the SGS3, but no one mentions the bootloader in a device review for some reason. Anyone seen a US version handset that is verifiably unlockable?

    toodles!!
    ALQI
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    you can still keep your unlimited data package after June 28th, all you have to do is buy the phone outright, may it be from eBay craigslist or a friend, once you UPGRADE AT SUBSIDIZED price from Veutizon orany other Verizon authorized retailer your unlimited data is NO MORE. This has been discussed in these forums at least a couple of hundred times.

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    Would love to see some sources for the GS3 info.
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