Verizon Rolling Out New 6 Strikes Anti-Piracy Policy; Throttles Offenders to 256kbps

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    This news isn't directly related to Android stuff, but it is a Verizon story, and it pertains to their internet service, which is likely important to all of their users. A recent leak reveals the details of a new Anti-Piracy Policy that Verizon plans to implement in the near future. This new policy has apparently been developed in concert with the MPAA and RIAA to follow the US based Center for Copyright Information (CCI) guidelines.

    This new policy seeks to do several things. First, it will prove as both an early warning system and educational awareness for folks who are violating copyright laws. Additionally, on the back-end, it will help Verizon and any other parties involved to create a trail of evidence to gather for any potential lawsuits against offenders. This new policy will be a 6 strikes procedure. Here's a quote with the details,

    This seems like a fairly balanced approach for the industry to figure out a way to "police" copyright violations, but there is one caveat. This new policy will also apply to businesses. This basically means coffee houses, hotels, fast-food restaurants, apartment complexes & other small businesses can also find themselves subject to these rules. This would mean they have to figure out a way to enforce these rules on their free WiFi connections. That could be a daunting task. What do you guys think?

    Source: BGR
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    What exactly falls under this copyright policy? Is this just for people who download torrents?
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    lol, good thing I don't support any new music anyways. Talentless emo crap. Even rappers now shopping at lady GAP
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    What if I am on crappy DSL, does that mean I get a speed boost for pirating?
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    So they'll use a sweeper to scan for copyrights like they do virus's?
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    What about free "public" wifi, not affiliated with a business? Is the MPAA going to sue some big, or small, city government because some unknown person pirated?

    It sounds like an ok idea, until you think about the headaches it could cause in a situation like that. They should track the device, not the connection.
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    And how the hell are they going to scan all the traffic of all their users accurately, that will take some serious hardware and money.
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    There must be some fiscal/control/power incentive for Verizon to do this. Otherwise, why would they care? They neither own nor profit from entertainment copyrights, other than, perhaps, FiOS instant movie rentals.
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    perhaps the threat of a lawsuit for failure to comply with laws to prevent piracy?
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    Enterprise Network sniffing tools/probes at their towers. Verizon has the money..
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    Guess its time to buy a VPN!! ;)
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    Reread peeps. This is verizons response when it is reported to them. It's in the first couple of sentences of the policy quote. They are not scanning, they are responding to complaints.
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    Can't stand the new stuff. All sounds the same. Too much auto-tune, because they can't sing or hold pitch.
    Bad mixes that a muddy and have no definition. Compressed to the max with no dynamic range. Pushed so loud is the only thing you hear.

    They need t get some new talent and some real engineers to mix and master.
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    vpn > mpaa/riaa
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    Seedbox :)

    They would and they probably have. There have been companies that tried to include people with insecure networks in their piracy suit. Their logic was that people would use their network to pirate.

    Of course it was thrown out cause it was stupid.
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    Just like your ISP knows what IP addresses they own do so does Verizon. They know what time, what tower and what device downloaded each kb of data since forever.

    - Every single device has a MAC address that almost every website records along with the IP address and browser of the user.

    - If you use torrent your IP address is visible for all the people involved in the transfer. (Click on peers next time you have your torrent program open).

    - So say Sony owns a particular song, they go to Pirate Bay and search for that song or the album it's on.

    - Sony downloads the torrent and connects. They then save all the IP addresses of the peers involved.

    - Sony goes to Verizon and says if you give us the information you logged about this IP address at so and so time... We won't go to AT&T with this exclusive licensing contract because they do cooperate.

    - It's not difficult nor is it expensive for them to do this. Most companies hang onto this information for at least a couple years for law enforcement purposes. If they can make money off it as well that is especially good for them.

    - This is even easier for websites than p2p. The website has your information and Verizon has your information. That's two sources they can go to.

    - You know what they don't want you to do.
    - You know they can find you when they want.
    - You make your own decision on whether that's worth it to you.

    (time to go fire up uTorrent and get me some textbooks)
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    If I was using an encrypted bittorrent network, could they still see my data? And what if I was using a verizon provided WiFi access point? I think I will take my chances on pirating because I can't afford to buy a $60 game when I have to spend 4 times that on a single textbook and I doubt they would waste their time suing a poor college student.
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    Encrypted bittorrent connections make it harder to detect the bittorrent protocol by the ISP. So they don't know you're using a torrent initially.

    However that information is still passed onto the other peers.

    -company complains that the IP address tied to Verizon provided Wifi access point X was downloading copyrighted material.

    -Verizon accesses records from that IP address.

    It won't have information that you were using the torrent provided they didn't use something that can detect encryption (which exist) but the complaint will still be registered. And I imagine they would send you a warning or use encryption detection next time.
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    I'm not saying that they'll do it to everyone either. I'm just saying the technology exists and is readily accessible.

    I don't want anyone to deceive themselves thinking they're 100% safe or that they're doomed. Just be aware.
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