Verizon Note 5 Will NOT Support Samsung Pay

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    What is with Verizon!!??!! They are nuts if they think that Softcard can compete with Samsung Pay. Samsung Pay on the Note 5 is a GAME CHANGER. Apple Pay and Android Pay have not been widely successful because they require a special kiosk to work. Your kiosk must be compatible with the payment system. This means you can not truely leave the house without your wallet.

    Samsung Pay is different it emulates a magnetic card swipe and works with virtually any payment terminal worldwide. I was really looking forward to using this on my Note 5 that I just preordered. I was so excited to get to use this that I decided to check out the Samsung Pay website. It had a list of compatible cards and carriers. Of course all major US carriers including US Cellular support Samsung Pay except for Verizon! I decided to tweet about it and VerizonWireless customer support confirmed that they don't plan to support it.

    They didn't specify why, but they would not support Google Wallet in the past because it was a direct competitor to their payment system. SOFTCARD is going nowhere. Why must they continue to block legitimately viable pay systems?! This is more than frustrating to me! Do any of you share in my frustration? Do any of you actually use Verizon's Softcard?
     
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    Nope. Never will use it either. Too bad about Vzw crippling OUR devices again.

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    I had no intentions of going from the 4 to 5 but daily I grow less and less fond of VZW and their ways. All the hard earned money I give them every month and they continously take things away that everyone else is giving. I think as soon as T mobile is available reliably in my area we are jumping ship and going to them. I can't stand other people telling me what I do and don't need to come with something I paid for.

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    Are they actually removing the hardware from the device or just the ability in the software? Lets hope devs can bring it back if its just software.
     
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    I'd never use Samsung Pay, but it does bother me how these days you buy something that's really not even yours. It should be illegal. It's similar to going to the store to buy a loaf of bread, but the store dictates what sort of meals you can use on your bread, and how much you can use in a given period of time.
     
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    I'm not too worried about it. Even though these "wallet" systems have been around for couple years now, none of them have really taken off yet, as major issues still need to be ironed out between manufacturers, pay systems, carrier's, etc. There have been so many changes and inconsistencies from the very beginning, that it's going to be years before people will trust them enough to use them on a regular basis. Why people are suddenly worried about it now, when it's really still in its infancy, is beyond me.
    This is where Apple is going to blow Android out of the water. They have one pay system on their one OS that works across ALL carriers and they had a dozen major retailers set up and running within a month of going live. The only problem with Apple Pay is that it's currently only available on the iPhone 6 & 6S. (& their latest iPads versions) Meanwhile Absurdroid has multiple card systems that have all had multiple name changes and multiple issues since day one.
    With all the data breaches that have happened lately (Target, Neiman Marcus, Home Depot,etc) still fresh in the minds of the consumer, I don't see any of these really taking off anytime soon.
    Just my .2 cents worth via my FDIC'd debit card.

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    I don't think the issue here is whether or not you intended to use this feature, or whether these type of payment services are popular - the issue is Verizon, once again, dictating what features their customers can & can't use! They've been doing it for a while and will continue to do it, and I think it's BS and the FCC or the Feds or SOMEONE needs to step in and put a stop to it!

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    AT&T and T-Mobile versions of the Note4 contain no quick settings data toggle. Android 5.0+ blocks the ability to use an aftermarket data toggle. For those of us on limited data plans that's akin to not having a volume up and down toggle, inexcusable. The ios like method of digging several taps into the settings menu to avoid the "nuances" of AT&T smart Wi-Fi sucking royally is not cool.
    So Verizon is blocking a bloatware that few will use and would complain about it being on the device anyway. At least Verizon didn't take away any stock settings.
    Sorry just had to rant and agree fragmented,carrier skinned, devices for Android is still Apple's best friend

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    It's a stock feature of Samsung's Touchwiz most likely. And as others have already pointed out, Verizon did take it upon themselves to disable Google Wallet which is a stock feature of the Google Apps suite.
     
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    Bloatware. Be it Samsung or Google. Definition of bloatware is embedded software that is infrequently, or never, used by the owner that is non removable without root access. What is bloatware to some is priceless to others and vice versa. On my Notes I have a much higher percentage of Google apps frozen than Samsung ones but my carrier based phones I have the highest percentage of carrier based apps frozen vs Samsung or Google ones. Android used to be an os with services and most Google apps, including basics such as gmail, were user choice but now they have joined the bloatware additions in the name of revenue enhancement. Verizon is simply blocking Google and Samsung attempts at revenue enhancement via embedded, non removable without root, apps.
    Though I don't like any carrier, os or manufacturer deciding for me what apps I want embedded I understand where Verizon is coming from. Don't put anybody's pay system on my device and let me decide ,via the Play Store, which I'd rather have. Then which is best will be decided by the owners of the devices and they'll all either sink or improve.

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    I thought Softcard was gone?

    Sent from my Verizon G4
     
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    I somewhat agree.

    Yeah it is not widespread as far as the wallet apps. In fact when I go into store I have to tell the registers who have them how to use it as most are still trying to go to barcode/qr code pay. I tell them wait do a credit card purchase, I touch the pad, and they are in awe.

    As far as the Note 5, that is why I left Verizon. For all their reliability I got tired of the crap. Is At&t a step down, technically yeah they are not the top carrier and they have their own issues. But they allow enough compromise to give customers headway. As far as I know the At&t Note 5 may block Samsung Pay but at least I can buy from elsewhere and still use it on AT&T.

    As far as the Pay apps I blame Google, Samsung, and Apple. Combined they could really push pay if they wanted to but they are failing on all fronts. First they are still "testing the waters" vs pushing this forward. Because they don't care we don't care, and neither do the stores.

    Apple, Samsung, and Google (Alphabet) need to join forces to push pay technology with strength, leading the charge vs not believing. Being they all use similar technology (NFC pay) it will benefit all in the long run for them to push more stores move forward.

    Lastly, more companies need to adopt the Loop Pay Technology, purchased by Samsung,(Samsung acquires Apple Pay competitor LoopPay so users can still use pay apps while technology catches up.
     
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