Verizon Apple iPad available October 28th

[Darkseider]

OMG all you folks blathering on about iPhone and VZW. Let's get this straight. Until LTE is widely accepted and implemented on carriers throughout the US which is by the end of 2012 and beginning of 2013 there will be NO VZW iPhone. Apple WILL NOT re-engineer and re-certify a separate product when one will work. Second and most important for the reading impaired. It has been CONFIRMED by multiple sources and even printed in black and white that the Apple and AT&T exclusivity contract is a FIVE (5) year contract which started in Q2 2007. For the mathematically impaired. 7 + 5 = 12. Hence Q2/2012 is when that contract becomes moot unless Apple and AT&T decide to renew. At that point AND only at that point will you see a multi-carrier iPhone in the US. Coincidentally this timeline happens to be the same timeline when LTE will be rolled out almost everywhere. kthnxbai

 

[DAVID2010]

Apple/at&t contract

OMG all you folks blathering on about iPhone and VZW. Let's get this straight. Until LTE is widely accepted and implemented on carriers throughout the US which is by the end of 2012 and beginning of 2013 there will be NO VZW iPhone. Apple WILL NOT re-engineer and re-certify a separate product when one will work. Second and most important for the reading impaired. It has been CONFIRMED by multiple sources and even printed in black and white that the Apple and AT&T exclusivity contract is a FIVE (5) year contract which started in Q2 2007. For the mathematically impaired. 7 + 5 = 12. Hence Q2/2012 is when that contract becomes moot unless Apple and AT&T decide to renew. At that point AND only at that point will you see a multi-carrier iPhone in the US. Coincidentally this timeline happens to be the same timeline when LTE will be rolled out almost everywhere. kthnxbai

It's ALSO been stated that that does NOT mean they have not renegotiated the contract. Again at that. It was renegotiated once for sure. I don't know that they did with AT&T BUT YOU also don't know that they didn't.
The iPhone is coming, it's just a matter of when. Too much money is to be made for that to be turned down. Without doubt, Apple and Verizon know millions of new iPhone's will be bought by Verizon customers. :iphone:

 

[UNC]

OMG all you folks blathering on about iPhone and VZW. Let's get this straight. Until LTE is widely accepted and implemented on carriers throughout the US which is by the end of 2012 and beginning of 2013 there will be NO VZW iPhone. Apple WILL NOT re-engineer and re-certify a separate product when one will work. Second and most important for the reading impaired. It has been CONFIRMED by multiple sources and even printed in black and white that the Apple and AT&T exclusivity contract is a FIVE (5) year contract which started in Q2 2007. For the mathematically impaired. 7 + 5 = 12. Hence Q2/2012 is when that contract becomes moot unless Apple and AT&T decide to renew. At that point AND only at that point will you see a multi-carrier iPhone in the US. Coincidentally this timeline happens to be the same timeline when LTE will be rolled out almost everywhere. kthnxbai

You do know that Apple actually DOES make CDMA iPhones..... That's not a "rumor". So why are you so certain that they won't make one?????

As for contracts.... They usually have something called a "Buy out" or an "opt out" clause. If the $$$$ is right a contract doesn't mean much. The people at Apple are smart enough to crunch the numbers.... Lets say 10m iPhones ship for Verizon. At 499 apiece that is a cool 4.9 billion...... Now lets say their buy out is 1 billion, that would leave 3.9 billion.... Don't you think Apple sees the value in that?

Now lets say Verizon jumps up and pays the buy-out for Apple. 10m iPhones would be 240 million MONTHS of locked up customers.... Now, multiply that 240m by $80 (average plan costs per smartphone, including family plans) and you get 19.2 BILLION.

So between Apple and Verizon, they stand to make almost 25 BILLION dollars off a vPhone.... Do you really see them passing that up?

Run the numbers yourself.

 

[Darkseider]

OMG all you folks blathering on about iPhone and VZW. Let's get this straight. Until LTE is widely accepted and implemented on carriers throughout the US which is by the end of 2012 and beginning of 2013 there will be NO VZW iPhone. Apple WILL NOT re-engineer and re-certify a separate product when one will work. Second and most important for the reading impaired. It has been CONFIRMED by multiple sources and even printed in black and white that the Apple and AT&T exclusivity contract is a FIVE (5) year contract which started in Q2 2007. For the mathematically impaired. 7 + 5 = 12. Hence Q2/2012 is when that contract becomes moot unless Apple and AT&T decide to renew. At that point AND only at that point will you see a multi-carrier iPhone in the US. Coincidentally this timeline happens to be the same timeline when LTE will be rolled out almost everywhere. kthnxbai

It's ALSO been stated that that does NOT mean they have not renegotiated the contract. Again at that. It was renegotiated once for sure. I don't know that they did with AT&T BUT YOU also don't know that they didn't.
The iPhone is coming, it's just a matter of when. Too much money is to be made for that to be turned down. Without doubt, Apple and Verizon know millions of new iPhone's will be bought by Verizon customers. :iphone:

Hmmm.... I guess the fact that I work at AT&T Labs means I have no clue? Yes it is coming, no it's not next year. The contract that was rengotiated was for the revenue split that was in the initial contract but the actual time of termination has not changed.

 

[DAVID2010]

Apple/at&t contract

HAHA. Maybe next year, maybe not. And just because you work at AT&T I guess I still don't think you have full details. But the iPhone is either coming next year or it is not. We will know soon though. :iphone:

 

[jbdavies]

Who the *mod edit for language* would pay $600+ for a WiFi iPad... plus the charge for service?! That's insane.

Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk

 

[UNC]

OMG all you folks blathering on about iPhone and VZW. Let's get this straight. Until LTE is widely accepted and implemented on carriers throughout the US which is by the end of 2012 and beginning of 2013 there will be NO VZW iPhone. Apple WILL NOT re-engineer and re-certify a separate product when one will work. Second and most important for the reading impaired. It has been CONFIRMED by multiple sources and even printed in black and white that the Apple and AT&T exclusivity contract is a FIVE (5) year contract which started in Q2 2007. For the mathematically impaired. 7 + 5 = 12. Hence Q2/2012 is when that contract becomes moot unless Apple and AT&T decide to renew. At that point AND only at that point will you see a multi-carrier iPhone in the US. Coincidentally this timeline happens to be the same timeline when LTE will be rolled out almost everywhere. kthnxbai

It's ALSO been stated that that does NOT mean they have not renegotiated the contract. Again at that. It was renegotiated once for sure. I don't know that they did with AT&T BUT YOU also don't know that they didn't.
The iPhone is coming, it's just a matter of when. Too much money is to be made for that to be turned down. Without doubt, Apple and Verizon know millions of new iPhone's will be bought by Verizon customers. :iphone:

Hmmm.... I guess the fact that I work at AT&T Labs means I have no clue? Yes it is coming, no it's not next year. The contract that was rengotiated was for the revenue split that was in the initial contract but the actual time of termination has not changed.

How would working for AT&T give you any insight into this? Unless you are Steve Jobs, Lowell McAdam, or Randall Stephenson you really have NO idea.
That would be akin to me saying "I work for the Panthers public relations department, therefore I KNOW when we will fire John Fox and hire Bill Cowher..."


WSJ has to keep up their reputation, I doubt their report was erroneous....

I'll bet you had NO IDEA iPad was going to Verizon, nobody did. Yet you claim to know that the vPhone will not be coming out!!

 

[eryck22]

Hmmm.... I guess the fact that I work at AT&T Labs means I have no clue? Yes it is coming, no it's not next year. The contract that was rengotiated was for the revenue split that was in the initial contract but the actual time of termination has not changed.[/QUOTE]

You work for AT&T not Apple, I don't think working for AT&T you have knowledge of internal dealings that pertain to Apple and what they are going to do next, what Apple is producing or who they are negotiating with...you might know some of the terms of the contract between AT&T and Apple, maybe as much as we know, it doesn't sound like you are in their legal department either. I work for a very large corporation and most of the business information does not trickle down until it has happened or a few days before. Nobody really knows what is happening except for Jobs and VZW, right now everything is speculation. My bet is they are going to follow the money.

 

[noisufnoc]

Meh, all this means is VZW is profiting on what people have already been doing. Using a MiFi or tethering an iPad to a device on their network. If VZW was announcing that the iPad had CDMA guts inside it then it might mean something more. I've been rambling about my thoughts about this rumored CDMA iPhone for a few days now at noisufnoc.com, my personal blog.

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Does anyone remember the Sprint iPad case that holds their mobile hotspot?
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[Quicksilver7714]

" Guess that dashes the hopes of a CDMA iPhone now, doesn't it"

I don't understand this statement at all.
What does an ipad have to do with an iphone? absolutely nothing.
Just an attempt to steal sales from samsung and be a gateway drug for future iphone losers.

Plenty. The iPad that is advertised on Verizon's site is a regular run of the mill Wifi iPad bundled with VZW's MiFi hotspot. In English that means NO 3G antenna or for the reading impaired. NO CDMA 3G antenna. Which in turn means NO CDMA iPhone. If Apple won't re-engineer an iPad w/ a 3G CDMA antenna what in the world makes you think they will do it for the iPhone for a "rumored" January release?

Very true. I would also like to point out that the iPhone has been rumored to be coming to Verizon for almost 2 years. Last year I heard of the testing of a dual mode iPhone for a January '10 release. Did that happen no. This is just Verizon trying to sell.there MiFi hot spot with a run of the mill WiFi iPad. They are just trying to cash in in the iPad's success. Personally I would just use my WiFi tether on my Droid to connect to Verizons 3g because then I have unlimited data unlike the MiFi where the max data plan costs $59.99 and is limited to 5gigs. Haha right like I'm going to pay for a limited plan when I already have unlimited data. Does Verizon think that everyone is just stupid or what.

Trying out Sprint for a month. Sent from my Evo using Tapatalk. 4G is pointless when you don't live in one of the few available network areas.

 

[droid_mike]

Well, this isn't as bad as it sounds, then, is it... Just a normal iPad that you can get at Target with a MiFi piece bundled in. This doesn't change much of anything, really, except in perception, since no subsidy deals were drawn up or anything.

It still stinks, though...

 

[UNC]

Well, this isn't as bad as it sounds, then, is it... Just a normal iPad that you can get at Target with a MiFi piece bundled in. This doesn't change much of anything, really, except in perception, since no subsidy deals were drawn up or anything.

It still stinks, though...

Why?????????

Competition is everything. Unless you're a socialist!

 

[GrillMouster]

Combine the best network (VZW) with the best platforms (Android & iOS), and Verizon will truly "rule the air".

 

[Darkseider]

"WSJ has to keep up their reputation, I doubt their report was erroneous...."

Is this the same WSJ that has a reputation for spewing BS?

Verizon iPhone arriving in September, says WSJ ? Cell Phones & Mobile Device Technology News & Updates | Geek.com

Ooh wait. Can it be they have the same sources as USA Today that said 2009?

Apple and Verizon consider iPhone deal - USATODAY.com

OR maybe.. JUST MAYBE the only person here making any sense is me? Ever think of that? When both VZW and AT&T have their LTE implementations live and have a broad coverage area, 2012, is when you will see a VZW iPhone. No sooner, no later.

 

[UNC]

"WSJ has to keep up their reputation, I doubt their report was erroneous...."

Is this the same WSJ that has a reputation for spewing BS?

Verizon iPhone arriving in September, says WSJ ? Cell Phones & Mobile Device Technology News & Updates | Geek.com

Ooh wait. Can it be they have the same sources as USA Today that said 2009?

Apple and Verizon consider iPhone deal - USATODAY.com

OR maybe.. JUST MAYBE the only person here making any sense is me? Ever think of that? When both VZW and AT&T have their LTE implementations live and have a broad coverage area, 2012, is when you will see a VZW iPhone. No sooner, no later.

How does that make sense?
Did AT&T have 3g when the first iPhone shipped? (yes) Did the iPhone? (no)

You would think an AT&T employee would've remembered that......

I rest my case.