[Update] Verizon's New Family Data Plans Begin: It's Called the Share Everything Plan

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  1. suzukimethod

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    i wonder how employer discounts work on the share everything plan....

    I'll probably get hammered for saying so...:blink:, but at my current plan (2 smartphones with unlimited data) i would actually save 10-20/month on this new plan (wife doesnt use much data at all, i am on wifi much of the workday)....even more with whatever employee discounts would help with.

    if overages are indeed $10 for 1-2GB prepaid, i hate to say, but it's a no brainer for me to switch. i hate giving up my unlimited plan, but given our data usage, the occasional need to purchase overages would be far offset by the monthly savings.


    it sucks for the heavy data users, but vzw has decided to stick it to the 4-5% of data users that use a vast majority of the data on the network.



    edited to add: haha - @steveirv, we are twins.
     
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    And what happens if you add a line to your plan? Uh oh...VZ advertised this as a savings for larger families and that's not the case at all. It might save the two-liners some money, but 4+ lines and they ram you hard.
     
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    For the single phone people, I think it means you can share data with your phone and tablet and laptop...
     
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    Even though I cringe at the data prices, I'm another one where this can end up saving me money. I have to wonder though if all the "smartphone" devices on the plan get a new every 2 discount or if it's just the primary line? If I have to pay full price to upgrade my phone, I may as well stick with what I have.
     
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    I completely disagree with this. The heavy data users get a break. The low end users are paying $50/GB. The high end users are paying $10/GB.
     
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    Here is the comparison with unlimited messaging and 2GB/phone data.

    750 Plan New Plan
    2 Smart Phones: $90 + $30 + $60 = $170 $80 + 70 = $150
    3 Smart Phones $100 + $30 + $90 = $210 $120 + 80 = $200
    4 Smart Phones $110 + $30 +120 = $260 $160 + 90 = $250

    If you have feature phones too that's where they get you.

    2 Smart Phones: $90 + $30 + $60 = $170 $80 + 70 = $150
    +1 feature Phones $100 + $30 + $60 = $190 $120 + 70 = $190
    +2 feature Phones $110 + $30 +160 = $200 $160 + 70 = $230

    If they only discount the primary line like they do now, then it is even worse since you are saving only on the $40 instead of the $80
     
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    Note: This does not consider the new talk/text pricing compared to the old... Nikecar does a great job of this here.

    I think VZW is definitely going after the biggest demographic with this as it will help the 4-5 person family that only use data for e-mail/check google/download apps, but on the other hand it is really going to hurt the power users and 1 or 2 line customers who will be paying a lot more for a lot less.

    [TABLE="align: center"]
    [TR]
    [TD]Old Plans[/TD]
    [TD]New Plans[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD] 2GB for $30

    5GB for $50
    10GB for $80[/TD]
    [TD] 1GB for $50
    2GB for $60
    4GB for $70
    6GB for $80
    8GB for $90
    10GB for $100[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]





    Ignoring people on unlimited because this is a bad deal no matter how you look at it:

    1 phone who used 2GB was $30, it will be $60
    1 phone who used 5GB was $50, it will be $80
    1 phone who used 10GB was $80, it will be $100

    2 phones who used 2GB each was $60, it will be $70
    2 phones who used 5GB each was $100, it will be $100
    2 phones who used 10GB each was $160, it will be impossible but limited to $100


    3 phones who used 2GB each was $90, it will be $80
    3 phones who used 5GB each was $150, it will be impossible but limited to $100
    3 phones who used 10GB each was $160, it will be impossible but limited to $100

    4 phones who used 2GB each was $120, it will be $90
    4 phones who used 5GB each was $2000, it will be impossible but limited to $100
    4 phones who used 10GB each was $320, it will be impossible but limited to $100

    And of course you can mix and match on the old plans but that is to many iterations and I'm lazy.

    So the large plans will definitely see the biggest benefit, but will also be forced into submission on how much data an account can use. Cutting back on data use is about the only course of action for a 4 or 5 device household with anything more than moderate usage.
     
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    Might be a problem for others, but not for people like me.....I'll be 60 in a couple months, have been retired for 7 years. My wife is 49, still working......all our kids are grown, gone, and have their own phones and plans.

    The real issue here is that the phone/data systems are finite, there is only so much capacity in the systems, and capacity costs money....a lot of money. And from a strictly business standpoint...when 4% to 5% of your customers are using the majority of your capacity.....time to do "something" about it. The people at the root of the "problem" will shuffle around to other providers, the "solution" will follow them until one day they'll be paying their share of the capacity used.

    And then once people get used to the new normal......the data/capacity used currently by 4% to 5% (power users) will be available for a lot more (average) users. Verizon then makes more money not by charging each one of us more, but by charging us the same or slightly less and having the capacity to service more customers.
     
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    I see people saying this will affect power users more. But when I think power user I think over 10GB a month. I use an average of 3-5GB a month which I consider average. My daughter uses 1GB or less. The reason is I use that amount is because I don't have access to wifi except when I am at home. This is from daily use. I don't stream audio or video all day. I use my phone for the things that it is intended to be used for.
     
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    Check the OP in a minute. Stormy is updating this news with more info that will clarify it for everyone. You won't be too happy with this info.....sorry :(
     
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    i should have been more clear. i'm paying $30 (actually $24 with discount) for unlimited data right now....granted, they will come after me if i go crazy every month, but i meant that switching from unlimited to any cap seems like a penalty compared to the new system (for heavy users)
     
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    You forgot your math, but going on current pricing, my GF and I on individual plans were paying $90-$100/mo ea. So say $190/mo for the two of us (that includes fees). Current family share pricing would put us at $70 for 700 minutes + $30 text + $60 for two data plans. That's $180/mo. This new pricing would put us at $80/mo for two phones with unlimited talk+text + $70/mo for 4GB data. That's $150/mo. We're not heavy data users, but at the end of the day this is still cheaper even with the more expensive data.
     
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