[UPDATE] Google Support of CDMA Galaxy Nexus Never Went Anywhere

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    Just a quick update on the article by a blogger that sent some VZW Nexus owners into a nose dive late last friday. As we reported on friday, it is still business as usual with the Galaxy Nexus, and there was never anything to worry about. Essentially Google cannot get distribution rights to the intellectual properties/software packages owned by the CDMA carriers, aka Sprint and Verizon, and that poses a "problem" for AOSP support.. Dan Morril, Android Engineer, gave a more in depth response to the assumption of Google no longer supporting the device. The lesson learned? It is better to wait on official confirmation than to run with rumor. Enjoy that Nexus folks!!

    Source: Google groups
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    Just another Frantic Friday in the android world.
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    Actually, the real lesson to be learned here is simple. Google should have never made concessions to Verizon to get them to carry a Nexus device. If Verizon wanted to play games with this proprietary "CDMA" crap, then Google should have told them to shop elsewhere for a device.

    I just KNEW that Verizon was incapable of making concessions to allow a FULL Nexus experience.
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    Bah... some things never change :D
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    So what exactly does this mean? Is this basically saying that the GSM Nexus will receive updates, and our CDMA Nexus might receive the same updates?
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    It means google and lte nexus owners just got poop-chuted by Verizon again.

    Damn our Gnex's have become even more of a VZW bastard child than the bionic.

    No dock's, No support, sheetty reception, crappy accessories. Which has now lead to vendors who are now screwing people that have the lte version looking to use the pogo pins with misleading statements about products on their websites and even one (Fommy) actively deceiving people about the car and media docks.


    Such a shame as this is a really great phone but it could of been a lot more .....never again will I buy a Samsung phone.
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    It actually means that the Galaxy nexus will continue to get updates. They can not make it AOSP but that will not keep the galaxy nexus from getting custom roms. In other words, continue to enjoy the nexus. You guys already have 4.04 roms and it has not been out 2 months yet.
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    +1 I do have 4.0.4 and liking it... thanks to BlackHat and posters leaking the 4.0.4 OTA
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    So by not making the updates AOSP, they will all be "unofficial"?
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    Its no different then what CM does for cdma devices. Everything else is Aosp except the phone and other things from cdma device that is not aosp. Basically nothing has changed..its business as usual.
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    What is the significance of AOSP? I don't think I ever caught what that stands for, or I just forgot :unsure:
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    Android Original Source Program (I think its program). It's what our phones run on.

    This post is Incredible 2!
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    Thank you for the clarification :)
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    Android Open Source Project
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    Yes and then most phones get skin interfaces jammed over top. Most phones have blur, sense, touchwiz, etc as overlays.

    On a separate note its sounds like Google isn't going to provide the code for aosp on the cdma nexus in the future right? You will still get updates, just no aosp roms?

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    I have to respectfully disagree..... a quote from this following link......

    "Now, here's how things are likely to look in the future for those CDMA devices:

    - Most likely, the relevant source files will continue being in the
    Android source tree.
    - Quite likely, it will be possible to actually compile that code.
    - We plan to continue to distribute factory images for Galaxy Nexus
    and proprietary binaries for all relevant devices, where we can.
    - There won't be any testing done on AOSP builds for those CDMA
    devices, so they'll probably bit-rot.

    - CDMA devices won't be targeted by improvements in the way AOSP
    builds can be installed or distributed.
    "



    https://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/10c8db7b1c893e1e
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    I'm pretty sure it means not much has changed. They will continue to build and release aosp for our devices - proprietary files and apps. Not a biggie as the dev community is good at getting it added into source builds. Basically it means we will give you what we can. I'm pretty sure Google builds most of if not all the build anyway.

    I'm not worried about it. I actually find it quite amusing some folks attempt to "rub" it in like we deserve crap for choosing a nex....obviously

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    Not only that, but I'm sure they did the same for Sprints Nexus S, and will do it again for their Galaxy Nexus.

    It's a CDMA thing, not something Verizon themselves are doing.

    This may also explain why there are so few WP devices out for CDMA networks. Both Sprint and Verizon only have 1, while AT&T and T-Mobile have a bunch.
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    Summary:

    CDMA Nexus ROMS built off of AOSP will not work as well as their GSM counterparts because of licensing which prevents firmware binaries being released. Will possibly slow the OTA times, and your ROMS will be more of the incremental variety with more bit rot.
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    Can someone clarify these posts I'm reading? I'm trying to figure out if I should have ignored the news and rumors, and just expect updates like usual, and consistently since we are using a Google device.

    Also, why can't they just build AOSP builds as normal, and include Verizon's bloat post compiled?